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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-5087</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 13:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just found the the wikileaks site sunday from the tv and found out that it is on the Australian blacklisted website list  as well the very fact it is on the blacklist is most distubing no porn was shown no drug recipes or fire arms manufacture instructions  from what i have seen it just exposed the lies of governments big business and there military  excesses things we are supposed to see on a news channel and My government wants to silence them ? whats us to trust there judgement that internet cencorship is the right thing to do? forget it put it up for a referendum to the aust people and watch them vote it down the very fact that they want to already blacklist websites like wikileaks is the very reason they should NEVER BE TRUSTED with censorship</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just found the the wikileaks site sunday from the tv and found out that it is on the Australian blacklisted website list  as well the very fact it is on the blacklist is most distubing no porn was shown no drug recipes or fire arms manufacture instructions  from what i have seen it just exposed the lies of governments big business and there military  excesses things we are supposed to see on a news channel and My government wants to silence them ? whats us to trust there judgement that internet cencorship is the right thing to do? forget it put it up for a referendum to the aust people and watch them vote it down the very fact that they want to already blacklist websites like wikileaks is the very reason they should NEVER BE TRUSTED with censorship</p>
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		<title>By: anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://oiiaustralia.com/files/public/submission-freedom-religion-belief-21st-century/

Very interesting position put in this article. It is basically arguing that we&#039;ve got to break down the gender dichotomy in order for the human rights of hormonally and or chromosomally &#039;abnormal&#039; people to be legally recognised and upheld. The submission literally calls upon all feminists and Churches to cease gender and intersex discrimination. 


Just got this from GetUP  

This is our chance to ask Senator Conroy to explain his plans to censor the internet.

The architect of the Government&#039;s net censorship plans, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy, has refused interviews on the topic for months. But at 9.30pm this Thursday night we have an opportunity to put him on the spot.

On Thursday night the Senator will appear on Q&amp;A on ABC TV - a program that allows viewers rather than journalists to ask the tough questions.

Click here to submit your question.

It&#039;s time to hold Senator Conroy to account for his censorship plan, which will slow down the internet, make it more expensive, miss the vast majority of inappropriate content and accidentally block a range of perfectly legitimate sites.

Record your question for Stephen Conroy today:

www.getup.org.au/campaign/QandA

Thanks for being part of this,

The GetUp Team

P.S. Let&#039;s challenge Senator Conroy to justify his internet censorship plan when he appears on Q&amp;A at 9.30pm on Thursday night. Click here to submit your question.</description>
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<p>Very interesting position put in this article. It is basically arguing that we&#8217;ve got to break down the gender dichotomy in order for the human rights of hormonally and or chromosomally &#8216;abnormal&#8217; people to be legally recognised and upheld. The submission literally calls upon all feminists and Churches to cease gender and intersex discrimination. </p>
<p>Just got this from GetUP  </p>
<p>This is our chance to ask Senator Conroy to explain his plans to censor the internet.</p>
<p>The architect of the Government&#8217;s net censorship plans, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy, has refused interviews on the topic for months. But at 9.30pm this Thursday night we have an opportunity to put him on the spot.</p>
<p>On Thursday night the Senator will appear on Q&amp;A on ABC TV &#8211; a program that allows viewers rather than journalists to ask the tough questions.</p>
<p>Click here to submit your question.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to hold Senator Conroy to account for his censorship plan, which will slow down the internet, make it more expensive, miss the vast majority of inappropriate content and accidentally block a range of perfectly legitimate sites.</p>
<p>Record your question for Stephen Conroy today:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/QandA" rel="nofollow">http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/QandA</a></p>
<p>Thanks for being part of this,</p>
<p>The GetUp Team</p>
<p>P.S. Let&#8217;s challenge Senator Conroy to justify his internet censorship plan when he appears on Q&amp;A at 9.30pm on Thursday night. Click here to submit your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Intersex in Australia - Australia's Internet Filtering Scheme</title>
		<link>http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-3244</link>
		<dc:creator>Intersex in Australia - Australia's Internet Filtering Scheme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beyond The Fringe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Rudd Thoughtcrimes Proposal</title>
		<link>http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-1884</link>
		<dc:creator>Beyond The Fringe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Rudd Thoughtcrimes Proposal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] view of the sinister scope creep which is becoming characteristic of the Rudd government, we might consider what might fall under [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing to tell proponents of the plan is that they are going against God. God gave human beings free will because he intended us to make use of it. The brilliant thing about free will is that it allows people to learn from their mistakes. Censorship goes against free will. Censorship goes against learning. Censorship goes against God. No genuine Christian can support this plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to tell proponents of the plan is that they are going against God. God gave human beings free will because he intended us to make use of it. The brilliant thing about free will is that it allows people to learn from their mistakes. Censorship goes against free will. Censorship goes against learning. Censorship goes against God. No genuine Christian can support this plan.</p>
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		<title>By: lucychili</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucychili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a tshirt re no filter
http://www.zazzle.com/no_filter_kangaroo_shirt-235907394562900192</description>
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<a href="http://www.zazzle.com/no_filter_kangaroo_shirt-235907394562900192" rel="nofollow">http://www.zazzle.com/no_filter_kangaroo_shirt-235907394562900192</a></p>
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		<title>By: anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;This was just posted at Kasama so there may be some debate to follow.  Given the anti-democratic nature of these refugees from the RCP who control Kasama i wouldn&#039;t be holding my breath:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Keith&lt;/em&gt; Says: &lt;a href=&quot;http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/#comment-8847&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;November 5, 2008 at 11:17 pm&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;em&gt;I saw that Arthur was removed as a troll. I don’t think that he is/was a troll. He is a part of a legitimate trend on the left. The basis of some of their ideas is a book by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newleftreview.org/?view=1522&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;“Bill Warren” &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lastsuperpower.net/docs/warren&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;“Imperialism: Pioneer of Capitalism” &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The basic argument is that imperialism makes way for capitalism. Warren collects many quotes form Marx and Engles which support his view. Although, I do not agree with Warren I found it useful to read.

I don’t agree with Arthur on these questions but I do think that he and his view are a variant within the left and that he falls within the parameters of unity. He has posted constructively on other issues.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This was just posted at Kasama so there may be some debate to follow.  Given the anti-democratic nature of these refugees from the RCP who control Kasama i wouldn&#8217;t be holding my breath:</p>
<blockquote><p>Keith</p></blockquote>
<p></em> Says: <a href="http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/#comment-8847" rel="nofollow"><strong>November 5, 2008 at 11:17 pm</strong></a> </p>
<p><em>I saw that Arthur was removed as a troll. I don’t think that he is/was a troll. He is a part of a legitimate trend on the left. The basis of some of their ideas is a book by <a href="http://www.newleftreview.org/?view=1522" rel="nofollow"><strong>“Bill Warren” </strong></a>called <a href="http://www.lastsuperpower.net/docs/warren" rel="nofollow"><strong>“Imperialism: Pioneer of Capitalism” </strong></a>. The basic argument is that imperialism makes way for capitalism. Warren collects many quotes form Marx and Engles which support his view. Although, I do not agree with Warren I found it useful to read.</p>
<p>I don’t agree with Arthur on these questions but I do think that he and his view are a variant within the left and that he falls within the parameters of unity. He has posted constructively on other issues.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, an interesting development on the connection between censorship of porn and inability to handle political debate. Over at Kasama, they  got swamped by opposition in the thread linked above on porn and started a &quot;deep&quot; thread on Obama with a reasonable sounding introduction  about taking a breath, surveying the landscape and avoiding past errors.I figured out where they were really planning to go, and posted this as comment 9: 



&lt;blockquote&gt;Arthur Says:  November 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm  My guess is that people will take a breath, take a close look at the political landscape and then pick opposing war with the Taliban in Afghanistan as the next big focus for demonstrating complete irrelevance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



That has been deleted with the following  explanation :



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;TellNoLies&lt;/cite&gt; Says: 						 &lt;a href=&quot;http://mikeely.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/obamas-victory-taking-a-moment-to-observe/#comment-8830&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;November 5, 2008 at 12:22 pm&lt;/a&gt; 
[moderators: we removed Arthur&#039;s reactionary pro-imperialist trolling. He will not be back.]&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;Heaven forbid that we don’t recognize the NATO-UNOCAL-Opium Warlord Alliance as the great liberators of Afganistan that Arthur imagines they are. His snarky intentions aside, Arthur is correct both in identifying Afghanistan as an issue of pivotal importance, but also one where we will promptly encounter immense resistance from many liberals. It is actually a question where the progressive grassroots forces that rallied around Obama will prove to be very divided. A central task right now is to expose the human costs of the war — to get the pictures of the civilian victims of US military action in Afghanistan (and Pakistan) into circulation among progressives and liberals.
At the same time we should not act like Obama has already pulled out of Iraq or that there is any guarantee that he really will. I think Iraq may prove to be the first place where illusions about Obama will be tested. The Iraqi Gov’t’s rejection of the Status of Forces Agreement with the US may force Pres. Obama to show his hand on Iraq almost immediately.
Does anybody know of any plans for early spring anti-war mobilizations from any of the ostensible anti-war coalitions?&lt;/blockquote&gt;



This was followed by the expected flurry &quot;mobilizing&quot; on Afghanistan.


It should not take more than a few weeks for that to collapse.
Its clear both that there &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; people out there who will be interested in thinking things through, and that we will have to work hard to establish contact and a forum.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, an interesting development on the connection between censorship of porn and inability to handle political debate. Over at Kasama, they  got swamped by opposition in the thread linked above on porn and started a &#8220;deep&#8221; thread on Obama with a reasonable sounding introduction  about taking a breath, surveying the landscape and avoiding past errors.I figured out where they were really planning to go, and posted this as comment 9: </p>
<blockquote><p>Arthur Says:  November 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm  My guess is that people will take a breath, take a close look at the political landscape and then pick opposing war with the Taliban in Afghanistan as the next big focus for demonstrating complete irrelevance.</p></blockquote>
<p>That has been deleted with the following  explanation :</p>
<blockquote><p><cite>TellNoLies</cite> Says: 						 <a href="http://mikeely.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/obamas-victory-taking-a-moment-to-observe/#comment-8830" rel="nofollow">November 5, 2008 at 12:22 pm</a><br />
[moderators: we removed Arthur's reactionary pro-imperialist trolling. He will not be back.]</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Heaven forbid that we don’t recognize the NATO-UNOCAL-Opium Warlord Alliance as the great liberators of Afganistan that Arthur imagines they are. His snarky intentions aside, Arthur is correct both in identifying Afghanistan as an issue of pivotal importance, but also one where we will promptly encounter immense resistance from many liberals. It is actually a question where the progressive grassroots forces that rallied around Obama will prove to be very divided. A central task right now is to expose the human costs of the war — to get the pictures of the civilian victims of US military action in Afghanistan (and Pakistan) into circulation among progressives and liberals.<br />
At the same time we should not act like Obama has already pulled out of Iraq or that there is any guarantee that he really will. I think Iraq may prove to be the first place where illusions about Obama will be tested. The Iraqi Gov’t’s rejection of the Status of Forces Agreement with the US may force Pres. Obama to show his hand on Iraq almost immediately.<br />
Does anybody know of any plans for early spring anti-war mobilizations from any of the ostensible anti-war coalitions?</p></blockquote>
<p>This was followed by the expected flurry &#8220;mobilizing&#8221; on Afghanistan.</p>
<p>It should not take more than a few weeks for that to collapse.<br />
Its clear both that there <em>are</em> people out there who will be interested in thinking things through, and that we will have to work hard to establish contact and a forum.<br />
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW There&#039;s an interesting &lt;a href=&quot;http://mikeely.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/robert-jensen-the-cruel-boredom-of-pornography/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discussion of porn&lt;/a&gt; at Kasama at the moment. (It&#039;s not directly on topic ( isolated from actual struggles such as this one),  but of interest in the range of attitudes, the way they are presented,  the implications about the way people think, and how to disentangle this from what they say).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW There&#8217;s an interesting <a href="http://mikeely.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/robert-jensen-the-cruel-boredom-of-pornography/" rel="nofollow">discussion of porn</a> at Kasama at the moment. (It&#8217;s not directly on topic ( isolated from actual struggles such as this one),  but of interest in the range of attitudes, the way they are presented,  the implications about the way people think, and how to disentangle this from what they say).</p>
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		<title>By: Curly</title>
		<link>http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=144&#038;cpage=1#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>Curly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read about this and am outraged! If Australia goes down this path, the precedent will be set for other western liberal democracies to follow suit.I would fear even more for freedoms in &lt;a href=&quot;http://curly15.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/australia-to-join-elite-censors/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Big Brother&quot; Britain&lt;/a&gt;, and elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read about this and am outraged! If Australia goes down this path, the precedent will be set for other western liberal democracies to follow suit.I would fear even more for freedoms in <a href="http://curly15.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/australia-to-join-elite-censors/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Big Brother&#8221; Britain</a>, and elsewhere.</p>
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