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World mad.

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World gone Mad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3fpnZSXWjA worth a listen,
just to start a conversation! Brendan Oneil talking to Julia Hartley-Brewer. Refreshingly open honest and above board conversation.

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1 patrickm
October 3, 2021 at 9:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFTHoNmaWgk Helen Dale on police.
2 patrickm
October 3, 2021 at 9:07 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZRR5zZ0I0s Sweden won the debate ?!
3 patrickm
October 4, 2021 at 6:05 pm

The obvious madness of Greta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRgvJPSOTTM
4 patrickm
October 28, 2021 at 9:33 pm

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/chris-kenny/every-virtuesignaller-on-the-planet-will-be-at-glasgow-chris-kenny/video/5cbdcebf04c13fccf67d2f73ec5a0759
20 years have gone past since it was about 20 years past the first time I heard that ‘we’ only had 10 years to act!

The mad end of the woke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkhZ6R4eVr0 all are BBC type woke and at heart just agree with the obviously alarmist mad woman who is just a bit extreme in her methods!
5 patrickm
February 23, 2022 at 8:34 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6aPCGGDNPU the inevitable result of green madness!
6 patrickm
February 23, 2022 at 11:54 pm

As Putin’s further assault on the Ukrainian peoples gets going it is well to remember the military saying “slow is smooth and smooth is fast”. War takes time! Big wars take big time.

I hope the Ukrainian armed forces are led by some very clever generals because I would bet the Russians have had this war planned out in a meticulous manner over a very long time so I hope the same applies to the defence, but somehow I doubt it. But as they also say ‘no plan ever survives contact with the enemy’. Sadly the Ukrainians will lose a lot of heroic fighters once the Russians start their old steam roller.

At least they have got great US satellite and other intelligence platform fead!
7 Stephen Owens
February 24, 2022 at 11:52 am

I think that you need to calm down and ask yourself what has changed?
In 2014 Putin went into the 2 Eastern Ukrainian provinces but said that he wasn’t there, now his says he is there. The provinces were part of Ukraine and now Putin says that they are independent countries. Ill grant you that Putin’s war preparations now look serious which earlier even this month they didn’t but if his bluff is to work he has to look serious.
For 8 years Putin has put up with supporting Donetsk and Luhansk which must be pretty marginal places considering the cost of maintaining the war necessary to protect them.
But again I return to my as yet unanswered question. What are Putin’s war aims?
I think that his aims were to get some negotiated gains from Ukraine or NATO but in this he has clearly failed. I think that he will now fall back to a position of beefing up Donetsk and Luhansk so that he can at least exit with the claim that he saved these “countries” from terrible fascist Ukrainian aggression.
8 patrickm
May 24, 2022 at 12:59 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlRSUUmeo08 Peta Credlin has a good grasp of what the ALP strengths might be to get 2 terms! Strap in for the woke madness!

As for Putin’s war, well NATO is now in this for a win! So Putin is in trouble because they cant out supply the weapons and manpower to the cutting edge front. The Russians can’t retrain in the required timeframe and they can’t re-equip and they are up against the US plus NATO and Japan and even Australia and others are contributing to the ever-strengthening Ukraine manpower resources. Despite the terrible destruction Ukraine is relatively stronger now than at the start of 2022!

The pushback has been underway for some time and the Russians have very little to show and no realistic prospect for holding on to what they have grabbed this year for very long. If they lose what they have tried to grab this year it will have come at a crushing price of men and materials and Russia might not hold together under Vlad the bungler!

This is undoubtedly a historical turning point of a war!
9 patrickm
May 25, 2022 at 9:59 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzOn3mM_YTI Musk is out by a factor of 10 on his own admission and the carbon cult is now the government!
10 patrickm
June 2, 2022 at 11:39 pm

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/chris-kenny/they-might-as-well-howl-at-the-moon-sa-declares-climate-emergency/video/4ba9cbe82992b3941883024cf1dba4b9 tweedles ‘climate emergency’ for fucks sake.
11 patrickm
June 3, 2022 at 7:22 pm

12 years on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwayalLpYY and nothing has improved.

What is, and isn’t, settled about climate science.

Guests:
Richard Lindzen is a professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Hadi Dowlatabadi is Canada research chair and professor in Applied Mathematics and Global Change at the University of British Columbia.
12 patrickm
June 3, 2022 at 9:07 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8zBqf8W5Xo deeply flawed Biden decision to not send longer-range missiles! Then this a day later (a bit of a backdown) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUzKzDqGmu4
This is very good news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9JH0sd-eoU

Davos shits ‘approaching war fatigue’. What rubbish from the usual suspects of the realist right! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C8wspuji7U

Oh yes, Chomsky! An experiment no less! Whatever happened to Vietnam? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVN7iV5kVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfI5J8OVxxU more support and we will get to the victory quicker! Never seen Ukraine so united!

On DW news german liberals show how dopy they can be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ4hkYDHnjg

Pretty well my thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83OY6De6Ob4 a man truly missed!
‘These are segments from Hitch’s speech “Axis of Evil” given on March 8th, 2005 at the University of Western Ontario. The speech mainly focused on the dictatorships of Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. In these clips however, the Russian regime, ruled by Vladimir Putin (then, and still now), is mentioned. The similarities between these small, tribal, theocratic regimes and that of Putin’s Russia is hauntingly similar. Considering this speech was also over a decade ago, Hitch’s comments on Putin and Russian indignation are strikingly prophetic.’
13 patrickm
June 5, 2022 at 11:53 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNMwW6gmJAU fighting back in Britain. ‘How do you resist woke? Tell the truth and build.’
14 patrickm
June 5, 2022 at 3:17 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNMwW6gmJAU she gets it!!
15 patrickm
June 7, 2022 at 3:01 pm

Even a brit ruling elite type has got it, despite his respect for Henry K https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMeuVdodfVw
16 patrickm
June 7, 2022 at 9:49 pm

Like lightning this lot…https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/peta-credlin/progressive-media-is-way-out-of-kilter-with-the-world/video/69d0f7694583b3aa54ab1ac1fe5ddcde
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuIM4_C7wOU Jeremy Corbyn reminds me of the cruise missal something or other blather!
Much better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBxw53tEurY
17 patrickm
June 8, 2022 at 10:40 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS2iU1cqqYU pretty good! Neil Oliver on Davos.
18 patrickm
June 19, 2022 at 8:26 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlH3S-uLTIw michael Shellenberger interview. ‘He’ is a good place to start this fightback.
19 patrickm
June 19, 2022 at 9:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayWyzvo9SNY Jordan Peterson 16/06/22 good in his field! (But still raving about the bad Marxists!)
20 patrickm
June 20, 2022 at 6:24 pm

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/chris-kenny/australia-is-reaping-the-sowing-of-net-zero-emissions-canavan/video/ba292d310cbae98cf260cab11fae1215 spot on.
21 patrickm
June 22, 2022 at 9:22 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRi4JSf1NmM Sky on trans issue and the election. Sco-mo dropped the ball.
and climate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-a-1Y4Xmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxkF94vpDl0 coal coal coal!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt78vsNMtM and Neil Oliver ‘if Australia can’t then…’
22 patrickm
July 5, 2022 at 7:19 pm

Well…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXk32s0cLfE that is our ruling class!! Compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2w9gkksn-g the new greatest generation!
23 patrickm
July 15, 2022 at 10:33 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej9uiZ2HiDI Shellenberger on Sky! ESG…and revolt yet the media won’t report! Exciting! Farmers standing up!
24 patrickm
July 19, 2022 at 1:05 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG660H1JjWU interesting German Webster University Assistant Professor Ralph Schoellhammer.

Jul 17, 2022
There is a “deafening” media silence on protests around the world protesting against the elites, according to Webster University Assistant Professor Ralph Schoellhammer.

“They are significant protests – we’re talking about 30,000 people in The Netherlands,” Prof Schoellhammer said.

Prof Schoellhammer said the media and political campaign across the west against “disinformation” is part of a broader attempt to “undermine” organised protests against the agenda of the elites.

“That the best way to prevent the pushback from large numbers of people is if they don’t know that anything is going on,” he said.

“Think about the situation of the truckers in Canada when they pulled their bank accounts … so this is undermining the possibility of those people to organise.

“It’s what interest groups, what these players do – they see there is something coming that could be a threat to their power so they try to do something to undermine it.”
25 patrickm
August 29, 2022 at 11:40 am

https://youtu.be/MWB8riyHQ7Q Alex Epstein talks to Brendon O’Neil
26 patrickm
September 2, 2022 at 10:40 am

https://youtu.be/dnh85h_I5EI More from Alex Epstein. Also on Twitter he is going up against the loonies from ‘Just stop oil’ in Britain. In Australia Turnbull has just been silenced at Sydney Uni. The ‘Trots’ and other rats who can’t win an argument! Failure to spot what fascism is all about has been their hallmark all along.

ALP is having a woke talkfest and Charmers is pretending to be the PM. The chickens are on their way home to roost for all this woke poison. But the libs are not fit to take this on.

https://opportune.com/insights/podcast/id/alex-epstein-the-future-of-fossil-fuels/ The right is doing the heavy lifting!

The only powerful point that is low hanging fruit is the concept of pseudoleft as one word!
27 Stephen Owens
September 2, 2022 at 8:11 pm

Yes the Stalinists have such a proud anti Nazi history

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/communists-allied-with-nazis.html?chrome=1
28 patrickm
September 3, 2022 at 12:51 pm

Yes we do! But don’t let that stop you from spreading your contextless diversions as your method of self exposure. After all the World has currently gone mad so you fit right in.
29 patrickm
September 3, 2022 at 1:11 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3fpnZSXWjA worth a listen,
just to start a conversation! Brendan Oneil talking to Julia Hartley-Brewer. Refreshingly open honest and above board conversation.

The Emperor has no close is her starting point and she is spot on. They are stark naked! And it’s altogether to chilly a morn…

When did you dump Brendon and Julia after all they like Alex are not nasty communists (leaving aside Brendon’s past).
30 Stephen Owens
September 3, 2022 at 5:14 pm

OK here’s the white flag, you have been right on everything and I have been wrong. Iraq is now a model democracy and many middle eastern countries have copied it. I must admit I never saw Israel agreeing to a 2-state solution and Afghanistan is both a great place for women and involved in a regional war. Pell clearly is on course to be the next pope, and Putin is more stupid than I thought. The Jan 6 insurrectionist are only going to be charged with disorderly conduct, and Alex Epstein is a genius to correctly claim that we need to burn more fossil fuels. The Moscow show trials were all legit, and treating the SDP as though they were worse than the Nazis was a master stroke. What could possibly go wrong with a Red Brown alliance.
Im done.
31 patrickm
September 5, 2022 at 6:54 am

That’s pretty well a declaration of insanity.

So where was I? Well I like this https://youtu.be/0QnmuAmOgRA Neil Oliver not putting a word wrong. Well done Neil.
32 Stephen Owens
September 5, 2022 at 8:54 am

I want to stop but every time I do they drag me back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNQHhD-cdEY

Can someone please tell Mr Oliver that Lithium is not a rare earth mineral.
https://lynasrareearths.com/products/what-are-rare-earths/
see no lithium
Can someone please tell him that the new technology of Direct Lithium Extraction will resolve many of the issues he raises

https://www.ibatterymetals.com/insights/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-direct-lithium-extraction-process
Yeah, not a word wrong, except not knowing about rare earths and not knowing about the latest technology.
33 Stephen Owens
September 5, 2022 at 9:05 am

Then he gets worked up about Cobalt. It’s hard to put a figure on how out of date his information is, but battery makes now produce Cobalt free batteries
“…. Chinese EV battery manufacturer SVOLT unveiled what it claims to be the world’s first cobalt-free battery. The company has been selling cobalt-free battery cells since February 2021.”
Half the batteries used by Tesla are Lithium iron phosphate batteries, see mum no cobalt.
34 patrickm
September 5, 2022 at 2:24 pm

You seem to have missed the point entirely. You have lost this debate from the get go. He is on the people’s side you are on Prince Charles!
35 Stephen Owens
September 5, 2022 at 7:03 pm

With all due respect. I did not address the point of Mr Oliver’s monologue. What I did was address some glaring errors in his presentation. He claimed Lithium to be a rare earth (it’s not), he claimed that lithium mining is environmentally problematic without mentioning Direct Lithium Extraction (which will resolve the environmental issues in the lithium brine industry), and he mentioned that batteries use cobalt without mentioning that cobalt is being phased out of battery production.
I did not dispute his argument, I merely pointed out errors in his presentation which you described as not a word wrong.
36 patrickm
September 6, 2022 at 2:05 pm

No you did not. An irrelevant issue, Lithium in not considered a ‘rare earth’, instead it is just a scarce resource that is in high demand and has been difficult to mine and concentrate was brought up So what? Totally irrelevant. Then you say that Neil failed to mention that in the future there will be better methods to get the Lithium and cobalt will be phased out. Wonderfull. Totally missing what was and is important about Oliver and that is; he is speaking up for the masses against the poison that is the woke elite and the fools that are sucked in by this junk. You are on the wrong horse yet again.
Here is a hint from….
@AlexEpstein
My 3 irrefutable principles for thinking about fossil fuels, which no opponent has ever challenged:

1. Factor in fossil fuels’ benefits
2. Factor in fossil fuels’ “climate mastery benefits”
3. Factor in fossil fuels’ negative and positive climate side-effects *with precision*
1:32 AM · Sep 1, 2022
END

I say that these are the factors that failure to address will prevent you thinking clearly about energy from fossil fuels in any productive manner. You are swimming with the tide.

http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=3725#comment-1698282

Go up to your comment and realise how badly you get stuff wrong and then run away without working out why you are so silly.
37 patrickm
September 6, 2022 at 5:21 pm

I like Helen Pluckrose I have been listening to her on a few podcasts and she is a very solid liberal. She has not I guess got a good grasp of the pseudo nature of the left that she is fighting but she does get the notion that the marxists have been fighting against this post modernist crap from the get go. https://youtu.be/RtMASKnobdw Is an example.

She co wrote a book called Critical (crossed out and replaced with) cynical theories. Sub titled How scholar activists made everything about race gender and identity and how that harms everybody. They got that right as it is all about power and is entirely cynical.
38 Stephen Owens
September 6, 2022 at 5:37 pm

Lithium is not a rare earth. He just made that up. Lithium is not a scarce resource, you just made that up, total global reserves stand at 14 million tons. When anyone says that lithium is a rare earth, it just alerts me to the fact that they don’t know much because this is such a basic fact about lithium.
Lithium is in short supply because demand has gone through the roof and supply is difficult to ramp up. A battery giga factory takes about 18 months to build. A lithium mine takes about 7 years from discovery to production.
Mr Oliver made a bit of a song and dance about the coming electricity crisis in the UK, but are renewables to blame? My really really lay person’s understanding of the crisis is that wind solar and nuke make up about half the electricity generation capacity, and they are quite cheap sources. The other half is made up by LNG and there is an LNG worldwide shortage. This has skyrocketed the price of LNG. In the UK I understand that they have a pricing system where electricity in total is priced at the rate produced by the most expensive source, this being LNG.
39 patrickm
September 6, 2022 at 6:33 pm

We already established that Lithium is not one of the elements called a rare earth. But all I was attempting to explain to you was that this was totally irrelevant. It was just that it is in high demand and has low supply so that thus the price is very high and thus currently relatively it is scarce. There is of course plenty of everything and always will be get a copy of Julian Simon The Ultimate Resource 2. Or the latest book Super Abundance I forget by who. Stop being a silly pedant! That is just dopey.

Unreliables are the problem and rather obviously so. These issues were not happening 2 decades ago when this green stuff was not destroying the markets. That was back when the price of energy was falling as is the way of humanity producing any commodity. That is why we had this thing called a rising standard of living. This stupid green rubbish has deliberately or ignorantly take your pick, slammed that process of cheapening into reverse. No hiding from this frackup! I am as sure that you will regret your current stand as ever I was sure about anything. If you read Epstein you can cure yourself. But without the will to learn you will just keep missing what is right in front of your face.
https://youtu.be/6iC_hY4qhyk This is them.
40 patrickm
September 7, 2022 at 7:18 am

https://youtu.be/Erj3Wrdr4jU The debate with a Texas greenie.

Opposing Views: Is Climate Change A Problem? | Alex Epstein & Dr. Andrew Dessler – MP Podcast #126

In this podcast Peterson’s daughter presents 2 views in a 1 after the other format. That is because Dessler would not debate Epstein. He had once before so I think he knows he is not up to the task but he is up to presenting his views as a single exchange to some soft questions that are not then forensically returned to as his answers unfold. In short he is capable of giving one of his religious warming lectures to his students.

The most interesting point for me was at the end when he attempted to present as a reasonable man and praised fossil fuels for getting humanity this far, now he said it is time to take off the trainer wheels. Now the metaphor just does not logically work but it has obviously played well for him before, so it’s worth working through to see why he gets it so wrong.

Incidentally he states that the wars that the US have engaged in -Iraq and Afghanistan- are part of the actual down side externality cost of oil and has to be seen in that light. In other words he is a bog standard no blood for oil fool who can’t explain how the theft was to be achieved with the free and fair elections and the withdrawal and all. So the error in his judgement the exact same error as Noam Chomsky can’t be admitted and the outcome is no doubt explained away as a US defeat! He would never even have heard of the revolutionary left view that now stands positively contrasted with the results from right next door in Syria! Not something that he would be saying much about besides hands off Syria or some such clap trap while the Putin led fascists pile the bodies higher.
41 Stephen Owens
September 7, 2022 at 10:49 am

I think that the debate over Alex Epstein is pretty simple. Texas had a weather event, the power system failed and people froze to death in their homes. Oklahoma had exactly the same weather event, the power system did not fail and no one died.
The difference between Texas and Oklahoma is that Oklahoma is connected to the interstate grid and Texas is not.
If you ignore the number one reason for why people died and concentrate on secondary issues, you are trying to deceive people.
42 Stephen Owens
September 7, 2022 at 2:56 pm

Hundreds of people died in the Texas freeze. The number one reason was Texas not being on the interstate electricity grid. The second most important reason was that Texas had failed to weatherise its electricity production as it was advised to after the 2011 freeze.
Now these are clearly the two main reasons.
If you argue that it was down to wind turbines freezing or if later after you are exposed because the main failure was gas wellheads you claim that all the spare money was diverted to renewables, then your argument is not to be taken seriously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYcpd9mZ4hM
43 Stephen Owens
September 8, 2022 at 11:52 am

Alex’s fingerprints are all over the attempt to misinform the public.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/texas-officials-circulated-climate-skeptic-s-talking-points-power-failures-n1262700
44 patrickm
September 8, 2022 at 1:23 pm

What you have just posted above is of course another ‘comment’ that is junk file material. It is an obvious alarmist hit piece that the woke in your world send round to each other to warn people that others are about and they have stuff to say that you disapprove of. Well I took the time to read it and it was the usual rubbish that proves something to a person like you who has an inability to look logically at issues like this.

Epstein is correct the bottom line is that unreliable sources of energy are the root cause of why the problems are now coming home to roost. Epstein is able to see much more clearly than non experts because he has made himself a genuine expert and he is doing a great job in providing his expert analysis in the form of talking points. So what you see as bad I welcome as very good work.

I can read this little hit piece and see straight through it you on the other hand are taken in by it. As with all your other blind spots there must be some reason why you can’t spot the elephant yet again.

I explained Ukraine to you and even the day of the official restart of the war 24/2 you were still blind to the reality that I had pointed to in numerous posts that made zero impact on you over 3 months or so.

The Pell case ought to have been one where you were explaining to me how this complainant was obviously a troubled mind but it was not you. Nothing got through your bias.

You are now doing your usual junk posting on an issue that is patently wrong.

Start your recovery programme by asking yourself what is it that keeps me on the podium with all the medals and you posting such obviously stupid content free slurs of what a good activist expert like Epstein ought to be doing to get people thinking clearly about an issue that is life and death for many people in an energy constrained world.

I have looked into this issue and Epstein is correct. The bottom line is that unreliables in the form of wind and solar are what has led to this problem and will lead to all the other looming problems.

Do not post such material again. Extract whatever you think is important for your argument and include that in an argument of your own otherwise you are spamming and destined to be reposted in the junk file where your latest belongs.

You now have the opportunity to pretend you have a moral high ground and refuse to do anything productive as is usual with you.

I will keep watching Epstein thrash the unequipped like Andrew Dessler or General Wesley Clark (totally out of his depth) and all the rest. He can’t get through to you in exactly the same way I have never been able to convince you of anything.

You are not thinking about his arguments at all. You are just playing your insane woke games.
45 patrickm
September 8, 2022 at 1:31 pm

https://youtu.be/U9q-X8Xd2tk This was only 10 months ago but the woke could hear nothing because they would not and will not listen to different views. They could never win the debates so they had to exclude and shun or cancel people as their culture. I have seen this process operating for near on 50yrs and it has now become blatantly hysterical. Every point AE makes is now blindingly obvious to everyone who is not hopelessly green. Every fracking point!!

https://youtu.be/hWiCjEt1iBo. The actual argument on why Texas has problems and then this going back https://youtu.be/t3I1NYcf3oQ all Steve is managing to do is expose himself for distorting what Epstein is so very clearly spelling out. And guess who he debated and how that went https://youtu.be/1H9ngLs70qQ

https://youtu.be/B6RuMdTGlZI freedom is the magic word (anti Mao talk) by Alex Epstein that I would have thought would have been the Steve Owens take on the world so I guess I’m shocked by the greenie woke rubbish that our ex-trot and ex-Christian blank stare nit picking logic free zone is running with these days.

https://youtu.be/jgVmBZb7QnY sky kenny re nuclear

Instead of learning from Alex Epstein, Scott Morrison went to Glasgow and joined with all the imbeciles as they lined up behind Prince Charles and proceeded to demonstrate that they are all unfit to govern any modern country. They concluded the annual scare fest by announcing the next festival of the brain dead will be held in Cairo no less. Putin and Xi were obviously watching this idiocy and must have been shaking their heads in amazement. No wonder war was the next step.

This Glasgow idiocy was happening when I was putting on record my view that Putin was going to resume his war on Ukraine. But what were our Australian political ‘leaders’ and right across the western world for that matter doing? Going to the yearly scare fest and nobody was jumping up and down saying you are not looking at what is coming!

As I told people I have read Epstein’s book Fossil Future and I consider it the best book I have read in 25yrs and that is a lot of books. I think this beause he starts from the premise of what is best for human flourishing; so I see Alex as very important, and further left than he thinks he is as a good old fashioned defender of capitalism much like 2022 ALP supporter Steve Owens, who says ‘I see him as a light weight.’ But then Steve would have to nominate who is his heavyweight contender but with all the fears of being exposed for not having any legitimate argument at all the only thing to do is run for cover and simply make the wild assertion that ‘I think that the world will attempt to decarbonise the energy sector.’ Now we can all see the weasel word ‘attempt’ right in the middle, but it boots Steve right off the podium yet again. No medals for ‘the world will attempt’. https://youtu.be/HuKPVcTjLb8 Alex re fuels and making the detailed case that we must think of ‘energy as a process’.

Also anti communist Alan Jones 3years ago https://youtu.be/0dQmaAbr9_M It’s not as if people were not told this electricity price rise was not going to be the result of their idiocy. But the cult would not listen and instead it was endless scaremongering about carbon dioxide.

A lot of the current issues have been well raised in the book list I referred you to. And here is another one that I have not yet read but I know what argument it is running with and it is the argument that Julian Simon made in The Ultimate Resource 2; but I think it is putting in the missing links detail (but I will have to see).

I gather Steve still likes Hans Rosling’s work and people will recall Factfulness IMV another very useful book, we know the late professor Rosling smashed a lot of delusions that people suffer from in that book and Arthur Dent corrected him over lumping Mao with the One Child policy that was actually brought in by the Liu follower Deng and his ‘moderates’ that turned out to be the fascists.

Rosling was a bit of a low key warming worry wart but more I think along the spectrum heading to Lomborg. But having read his stuff I think he had simply failed to follow his own methods and not chased the relevant data. Anyway Gapminder Foudation as it goes forward will IMV be trapped by the problem because there are no alternatives to the fossil fuels that currently continue the process of making life better for more of the world’s 8billion people as we continue to urbanise and industrialise.

The recent disaster of Sri Lanka might have escaped you. After all the ABC/BBC types downplayed the issues, but the organic rubbish that they have pushed for 40yrs was shown up to be a total disaster. Fertiliser is made these days from Natural gas for example.

So here is Esaki’s 5 don’ts rules to help you.
1. Don’t allow yourself to be trapped by your past experiences.
2. Don’t allow yourself to become overly attached to any one authority in your field – the great professor perhaps.
3. Don’t hold on to what you don’t need.
4. Don’t avoid confrontation.
5. Don’t forget your spirit of childhood curiosity.
46 Stephen Owens
September 8, 2022 at 3:26 pm

Fossil fuels are dying. This is why. The cost curve of solar panels.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/solar-pv-prices
The price curve of Lithium batteries
https://ourworldindata.org/battery-price-decline
Lithium batteries still too expensive to hold energy in stationary batteries then try the low low cost sand battery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sol9FOaKTr0&t=106s
You see, we are currently going through the Third Industrial revolution. I well expect that the fossils from the second will only come along kicking and screaming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6jbZ_fdrY
47 patrickm
September 8, 2022 at 4:09 pm

When did you become this green ALP believer?
48 patrickm
September 8, 2022 at 4:22 pm

It looks a bit of a road to Damascus sort of thing perhaps. Watching the ABC all these years can damage the brain I suppose. Here we are at the beginning of a total energy disaster and you can’t see it blowing up in your face. Well points for consistency!

The other book I think might be useful for those who can read is Superabundance I will report once I get it and have the chance to get to it. I was very impressed with listening to them explain what they were on about to Jordan Peterson.

So who is your heavyweight contender?
49 patrickm
September 8, 2022 at 4:27 pm

Partial cost accounting will fool you very easily.
50 patrickm
September 8, 2022 at 5:23 pm

https://youtu.be/4VUKfLlKgXo Here Alex Epstein makes a solid case for why you ought to think with philosophy as your starting point.
51 patrickm
September 8, 2022 at 7:05 pm

https://youtu.be/U8q5WVCTXkk This is where you are going with this idiocy. Off to la la land.

Sep 8, 2022
Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan has responded to the “hypocrisy” of Animal Rebellion protesters who eat “almonds and avocados” by eating a Big Mac.

Animal Rebellion protest groups sprayed the gates of Big Ben with “paint symbolising milk” yesterday.

“I meet so many vegans who devour avocados and almonds, and don’t seem to realise it involves the slaughter of billions of bees,” Mr Morgan said.

“My response to you destroying all these things is to have a Big Mac – because, you know what, it’s a free country, it’s a democracy and I’m allowed to eat meat.

“I’m certainly allowed to eat meat when someone who kills bees to feed their avocado habit minds.”
52 Stephen Owens
September 9, 2022 at 7:37 am

Alex claims that in the last 100 years we have seen a 98% reduction in climate related deaths. How does anyone come up with such a stat? Does it include events like the Bengal famine 1943 (3 million dead) due to the 1942 cyclone? All through 1943 Bengal produced sufficient food to avoid famine, but decisions like that of Churchill to not provide famine relief was the reason people starved. So were these deaths attributable to the cyclone or to Imperialist politics? Is he adding in the alleged 30 million figure from the Great Leap famine? I can’t see how you can come up with a 98% reduction if you don’t add in the 30 million. Are you comfortable will 30 million Chinese being added to Alex’s total?
Also, problematic with the lower death toll is the advent of better technology. When a hurricane hit Galveston in 1900 it killed 6,000. The salient point is that the hurricane hit without warning, the quality of houses were poorer and the emergency response non-existent. Comparing natural disaster deaths now with those of 100 years ago is just not a fair comparison. But it’s OK, his role is to help poor folk like me think clearly.
53 Stephen Owens
September 9, 2022 at 8:52 am

I have been trying to track down figures, the 98% figure comes from Bjorn Lomborg he takes it from a website, but I had difficulty registering at that website but also looking at the great leap famine and the Wikipedia entry puts the death toll between 15 and 55 million people which makes me despair of getting any accurate figures. From memory, the Chinese government only admitted to food shortages, not deaths.
I’m quite happy to believe that the death toll has reduced substantially. People who die from natural disasters are generally poor people, and the world has made great gains in poverty reduction.
3 of the greatest gains have come via politics. Indian Independence ended famine in India, Soviet Collectivisation ended famine in the USSR and then there’s China, do we credit Mao or Deng? That all depends on the figure you place on the Great Leap famine, zero or 55 million. Personally, I think that both zero and 55 million are absurd.
One of the problems with Lomborg is when pressed about particular mass death events he states that it’s an average, which as an explanation doesn’t clarify much. I would like to know what events were included and whose estimate of death toll was used. Even with the 43 Bengal famine, the 3 million figure is a guess.
54 Stephen Owens
September 10, 2022 at 7:44 am

I came across a 70 million Great Leap famine estimate. I think that the right-wingers must be in a bidding war.
Alex makes an estimate of deaths from Communism in general. Not sure how many of these he attributes to weather/famine, but he’s here to help me think clearly, yes?

“A fully-realized green transition would amount to the largest mass murder event “since the killings of one hundred million people by communist regimes” in the 1900s, according to energy policy expert Alex Epstein.”
55 patrickm
September 10, 2022 at 2:12 pm

My tolerance for your anti communist insertions has exhausted itself. I am fully aware of the anti communist stand of all of the people that I have brought to your attention because they have written otherwise interesting books.

As to your attempt to cast doubt on the statistics of climate related deaths and the massive extent that they have fallen since humanity started using machines fed by fossil fuels you just made a blithering fool of yourself. You are up against Rosling, Lomborg, Epstein and so forth. You ought to think that perhaps you are just stupid because like your thoughts on Ukraine you are really barking mad.

https://youtu.be/R3TiB-efMhQ Here is a journalist from Britain who has a bit more of a clue about Putin and in many ways is just as clueless as you. Anti the liberation of Iraq warming hysterics at the end, conspiracy stuff massive confusion about ww2 Stalin etc etc. I bring these people to your attention not to have the fact that they are all anti communists thrown back by you but because they are saying something of use about the real world. In the case of climate related disaster deaths the stats are very solid obviously that is why nobody mentions them and talks about the coming disaster instead!
56 Stephen Owens
September 10, 2022 at 2:53 pm

I am just interested in how the statistics are gathered. Can you tell me if the famine in USSR, India and China are included in the numbers or not? Alex is at pains to say that the information he provides is publicly accessible. I can’t find the answer to this question, can you provide it?
OK to be clear, here is the question, were the famines in USSR, India and China part of the numbers in the Lomborg graph?
It’s a simple yes or no answer.
57 Stephen Owens
September 10, 2022 at 3:54 pm

I am unaware what you are objecting to. Lomborg has presented a graph, it looks pretty dramatic, and I don’t dispute the trend, I’m just trying to find out what info is included. It’s reasonably obvious that the trend is for people to survive catastrophic events as we learn from our experience, as this clip about Galveston shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbNkKy2j4eE
58 patrickm
September 10, 2022 at 8:29 pm

3. For every million people on earth, annual deaths from climate-related causes (extreme temperature, drought, flood, storms, wildfires,…) declined 98 percent–from an average of 247 per year during the 1920s to 2.5 per year during the 2010s. Data on disaster deaths come from EM-DAT, CRED/UC Louvain, Brussels, Belgium-emdat.be (D. Guha-Sapir). Population estimates for the 1920s come from the Maddison Database 2010 at the Groningen Growth and Development Centre, Faculty of Economics and Business at University of Groningen (for years not shown, the population is assumed to have grown at a steady rate), rug.nI/ggdc/historicaldevelopment/maddison/releases /maddison-database-2010. Population estimates for the 2010s come from World Bank, United Nations Population Division, World Population Prospects: 2019 Revision, Census reports and other statistical publications from national statistical offices, Eurostat; Demographic Statistics, United Nations Statistical Division, Population and Vital Statistics Report, us.Census Bureau:International Database, Secretariat of the Pacific Community statistics and Demography Programme, “Population, Total,; data.worldbank.org /indicator/SP.POP.TOTL.

‘What blew my mind’ said AE was the 180 opposite was happening to what the alarmists were saying was happening! John Holdren predicted in 1986 ‘…it is possible that carbon-dioxide climate induced famines could kill as many as a billion people before the year 2020.’ Well now that is clearly wildly wrong but worse still it is not even in the right direction of what even Steve Owens would expect to be happening as the world industrialises and consequently lifts people out of poverty using machines powered by fossil fuels.

Obviously, there are going to be situations that are difficult to correctly apportion such as when a country is at any kind of war and a climate event also occurs. But fighting wars of all kinds and direct crime are excluded as are epidemics and malaria outbreaks etc The statistics are thought through by the anti-communists and are bound to err in that direction to some extent. But this is in no way the important point about them and some averaging must be done no matter what. But climate alarmists can’t complain about that given their reliance on modelling for the future that is not able to even predict the past.

They are 180 out in their direction so forget the exact quantum. The only thing you alarmists can do now is to make the lame ‘prediction’ that this is the man falling from the 100-storey building saying so far so good floor by floor till the great and inevitable turnaround. Denial of the positive side of Fossil Fuels is central to your brand.

AE
My 3 irrefutable principles for thinking about fossil fuels, which no opponent has ever challenged:

1. Factor in fossil fuels’ benefits
2. Factor in fossil fuels’ “climate mastery benefits”
3. Factor in fossil fuels’ negative and positive climate side-effects *with precision*

As with you all must agree but none can do!
59 patrickm
September 11, 2022 at 6:00 pm

threat to a way of life! You prick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Wy3qJ0Cus how stupid do you greenies get?

Sep 11, 2022
Africa is bearing the brunt of the global climate emergency. The UN says climate change threatens to expose over one hundred million vulnerable Africans to droughts, floods and extreme heat by 2030. One of the worst hit countries is Somalia.

Almost 8 million people there, or about half the country’s population, are facing crisis hunger levels. The most affected area is the Bay region in the south. The UN says, barring a massive influx of assistance, that region is likely to see a full-scale famine in the coming months.

Clearly to prevent such impacts of climate change in Africa, something needs to be done urgently. And industrialized countries need to fulfill their funding promises for contributing the most to climate change. That’s a point that was reiterated by Ghana’s president Nana Akuffo Addo earlier this week in Rotterdam.

And that’s why earlier this week African leaders traveled to the Africa Adaptation summit in Rotterdam, Netherlands. But European partners did not turn up. And that was strongly criticized by African leaders.
60 patrickm
September 13, 2022 at 11:06 pm

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2022/08/shut-them-up-argues-the-academy-of-science/ and this is what the ALP insiders are up to!

‘In a move unprecedented in the democratic world, the Australian Academy of Science is lobbying the tech giants Meta (Facebook), Twitter, Google, Microsoft, Apple, Adobe and TikTok to censor and harass any Australians who circulate what the Academy insultingly labels “climate denialism misinformation”.’

Well how about that! Who would have guessed?
61 patrickm
September 13, 2022 at 11:25 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZ03vmAuQI This is the young dopey pseudo lefts who you (Steve Owens) distance from, but the other end is the King and the UN Gen Sec etc

So this is why AE is an important -I would say currently leading- communicator on the most important contemporary issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdjpvAVDrUs

The UN Sec Gen is a dangerous blithering fool as is your King.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5W4m5s4Gwo lawless institution…Biden is exposed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjg_C51hpOI

While I have no reason to doubt the statistics that Rosling, Lomborg, Epstein etc have sought out from other sources and then provided in their work, I must point out that if the rate was only ½ of what the best statistics that they can find are, then the point would still stand. That point is that there is a disconnect between what is real and what young people in particular think is real. You lot (from King to ALP hack) that are now as dumb as meat axes are busy misleading all that you can and you attempt to silence those that you can’t. The world is getting better, but the young and easily misled think it is getting worse! This has been the exact same positions of Erhlich and Simon all those years ago and we know how that bet went.

King Charles carries on from the foolishness of Philip and Attenborough in a grand tradition but if you run the bet at any decade since it was won then Simon still wins. So your King solves this inability to be anything other than wrong with a promise that whether his life will be short or long eventually this human progress (this measurable evident human flourishing) will stop just as the falling man will crash into the ground. So you greenies will not stop proclaiming your ‘new’ religion. Trends do not really mean anything to you.

Greens are causing the logical problems that stem from their own policies and are ridiculously blaming fossil fuels as the culprits when in the past when their green policies were not around, the problems were not either! Hence people who are vulnerable to junk arguments fall for the Texas-type ass-covering from these parasite energy sources. It remains the case that unreliable wind and solar are simply an additional cost on the whole system; a gigantic waste of human effort; when there is an energy crisis these fools talk twaddle about a non-existant climate crisis. We are in a climate renaissance. There is always a dangerous planet trying its best to kill us weak people. We get strong with machines. We get strong with the food that feeds the machines. Fossil Fuels provide low-cost reliable energy to protect people from this always dangerous planet’s climate events that have always slaughtered preindustrial humanity. That is why human flourishing has only just got going with the discovery of ways to use fossil fuels.

The price of energy drives to one extent or another the price of everything. Push that price up and the consequence is bad news for people who want to see a rising standard of living. Pakistan right now has substantial floods and it needs to get on with its rapid industrialisation. Instead, people are yabbering yet again about fossil fuels, and seeking to push up the price of these life-saving fuels. Increased deaths are the only possible result of such a floored logic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNZJQboomKE even Glenn Beck gets how important AE has become.
62 Stephen Owens
September 22, 2022 at 10:39 am

I have a question for you. When you watch Alex being interviewed, and he says that during the Texas storm, the wind died down. Now, I’m sure that you must have looked up wind speeds in Texas during those days and noticed that the wind speed increased.
So here’s my question. How do you process Alex’s statement with evidence to the contrary?
63 patrickm
September 22, 2022 at 3:36 pm

This https://energytalkingpoints.com/texas-electricity-crisis/ deals with all your mistakes and that is what they are.

Some years ago I was coming back from a trip and it was so windy that I was having difficulty driving in the conditions. When I got to Snowtown I noticed all the wind turbines were shut down because it was too windy. You have made an elemental error. It is all actually laid out in Alex Epstein’s above talking points with a very powerful graph that shows when the wind was NOT available.

All the points that you have brought up are systematically dealt with above. Unreliable electricity production is unsurprisingly unreliable. As Alex also said ‘Unreliable renewables were only part of the problem. But they are none of the solution.’ I have just read through this material and am satisfied that every issue that you have attempted to bring up in criticism of AE has been dealt with. His position remains unrefuted.

In the coming months, you will be in a position to see a similar green fraud attempted as this looming energy crisis unfolds. Study this one document and you will know the right questions and the pro-development argument to throw back at your King and Sanders/Biden/Gore/Guterres/ Albanese etc all the way past Greta the silly Greens, Trots and Teals.
64 Stephen Owens
September 22, 2022 at 5:05 pm

Alex is not saying in Texas it got so windy they turned the windmills off, he says in a couple of interviews I have seen that during the Texas storm Feb 10 to 20 that the wind stopped blowing. Here at the 1:13 minute mark he makes the claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWiCjEt1iBo

I have previously debunked this here using data from a couple of large cities in Texas Here’s different cities El Paso in west Texas and Amarillo in north Texas
El Paso from 10th to 20th max wind speeds were
6
9
13
4
4
16
12
12
5
6
7
Amarillo
11
25
18
13
12
21
24
24
10
19
22

The graph that Alex provides might show when wind was unavailable because the turbines were frozen, not because as he claims, the wind stopped blowing.
65 Stephen Owens
September 22, 2022 at 5:39 pm

Now I’m thinking what if El Paso and Amarillo aren’t near any wind farms so let’s look at Abilene that’s close to a big wind farm and remember wind turbines work best with wind over 14.5 KPH

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/abilene/historic?month=2&year=2021
66 patrickm
September 23, 2022 at 11:39 am

There are 6 graphs presented and the one stunning point that is clear in each is that the power supplied from the parasite unreliables that rob the self evidently actually always required reliable power producers that MUST be invested in, of income- parasites that stupid people describe as the renewables- is that they all had several periods when they were ‘totally out to lunch.’ So zero or negligible power was coming in from these unreliables when they were desperately required. 100% backup was required from reliable energy producers who ALSO failed when so stressed.

So the solution is to build (invest scarce monies in) more reliable producers and ensure they are not as stressed as they have become under current policies; that is do not permit such scary margins to develop and also incidentally do not fund the Chinese fascists or the Russians!

But the fools who ‘follow’ Greta and King Charles want to put more Chinese unreliables into the systems that are currently unstable as we shun the Russians! What level of foolishness are you prepared to descend to? Epstein is obviously correct in his diagnosis of the underlying problems the western world is now up against and what must be done to create a stable and cost-efficient energy expansion for peoples right across the globe.

The world needs more fossil fuels not less! Just today the Fracking ban has been lifted in England! It has not been lifted in Scotland or Wales. It must be. That gas is desperately required and greenie fools are preventing the adoption of cost-effective energy policies in order to save the planet from a non-existent ‘climate crisis. There is a real energy crisis and there has always been so for the world’s poor in unindustrialised backwaters where they suffer the gap. Closing the gap is what the revolutionary left insists upon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnxxELn00gk I would have hoped you had risen to at least this level of stupidity!

I wonder If you NOW concede that this (the biggest war in Europe since ww2 and that’s where both WWs started) IS the most serious situation that you have seen in your life? I still think it is; after all the nuclear threats are being made in the context of an army run by a fascist or gangster tyrant being defeated in the field! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9t2p3kLE8Y Vlad says he is not bluffing and I recon he ought to be taken at his lying word! This is not a partial mobilisation at all! This is him ordering up all that he can manage! It looks a lot like the start of ww3 to me in some respects at least.

What a terrible speech to the UN by Biden, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-9wewvyG4M a genuinely wasted opportunity at a crucial moment in history. Instead of explaining why the world must come together to undo Putin’s aggression and remaining focused Biden rambled about his election near 2 years ago and his wonderful woke policies, particularly his stupid climate religion; he just grazed over the whole paddock of wokedom. Utter rubbish; a woke moron boasting about his new religion.

A very big war is on and an energy crisis that he and his fellow travellers’ own policies have made worse is breaking out as a direct part of that war but he is not explaining his plan to fight. Cause he has not really got one!

There is him mostly reprising his old green shit as if nothing has changed. Shellenberger, Epstein and Lomborg etc are absolutely vital for seeing where the errors in logic are located.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tmDLssmC68 what a surprise! Cancel culture is much more than just off and running it is right out of control!

Then this pops up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWnO5Y0bC6o welcome Australia to energy poverty!

https://www.yout!ube.com/watch?v=su4czYxGYxo is pure idiocy from a hopeless green fuckwit! Give Putin a golden bridge no less! The founder with Berni Sanders no less!

Yanis Varoufakis had to say nothing but smilingly implied what his fellow rats at Democracy Now! also think but also can not say. That is he was for the ‘resistance’ in Iraq! But he can’t even now say so!! He knows that it is unacceptable to be on the side of the Islamofascists of ISIS / Al Qaeda or the plain fascists of Saddams Baathists! He knows that democracy was brought NOW to a country that had never before had the free and fair elections that have been held on a regular basis ever since. He had to smile with the implication and nothing more could be said. Nothing! Zero!

Yanis Varoufakis
@yanisvaroufakis
20 yrs ago progressives were warning that the neocons’ ruinous escapades in Afghanistan & Iraq would only strengthen the worst of the radical islamists – to the detriment of women and local progressives. Tragically, there is no longer the slightest doubt of that.
7:45 am · 16 Aug 2021
Or this shit https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/star-trek-prime-directive-applied-to-afghanistan-by-yanis-varoufakis-2021-08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNdnlrkx-wg This interview with Nicholas Eberstadt, a demographer, provides an excellent addition to Alex Epstein’s work. Given the current pitts that western humanity has plumbed here’s plenty of ‘poison to drain’ from the infected ruling classes and the current brain-dead Inteligencia before any theoretical turnaround can generate a credible left capable of speaking to the interests of the working classes!

You can’t imagine how someone of Joe Biden’s age can function in the role, yet you can support Berni Sanders 15 months his senior; I suppose that’s to be expected given what was on offer and that you suffer from similar lunatic -peacenik and greenie- views. These are now dangerous views that quite evidently now stand directly blocking the path of human flourishing. Delicate natural balance; sustainable; net zero; all garbage!

Reliable electricity or unreliable plus the reliable is a choice but the cost burden that your fellow travelling mental midgets want to impose to fix the climate that is not broken will not be able to inflict this rot on a desperately poor smashed-up Ukraine. No such burden was even imagined at the time that Germany, Ja[pan and Italy plus all the others were in a similar state when Bernie was a 5-year-old! You think ‘reports of Biden’s mental impairment are just propaganda pieces’ but then after 40 years of experience in mental health, you could not spot that witness J had a mental health issue that was being explained away as some survivor trauma issues, by the darlings of the ABC!

The speculation over Biden is simply an educated response to presented symptoms that had Joe sheltered from the pressure in the election, they are not all coming from propagandists! Just because ‘he has a stutter, always has’ didn’t stop him ever including being picked by Obama12 years earlier. What happened was that 12 years passed and cognitive issues often develop with advancing age. Facts on this will eventually come out but we won’t be around for me to say I told you.

By your foolish reasoning once a fascist power emerges a functionary of the system who consolidated power within the system, rather than someone who overthrew the system’ is then a non-fascist! By my definition the revolutionary USSR had transformed into it’s opposite.
67 Stephen Owens
September 23, 2022 at 12:22 pm

You dodge the question, so I’ll state it again.
Alex states that the wind turbines failed because the wind died down during the storms. I have provided 5 or 6 weather records from Texas cities showing that the wind increased during the 10 days of storms.
Here’s the question, it’s yes or no. Is Alex correct, did the wind drop off during the storms?
68 patrickm
September 23, 2022 at 3:15 pm

No, I did not. You are too foolish to notice that you have had your muddle-headed issues dealt with.

Take a deep breath and realise what is now unfolding. Putin has now lied about a partial mobilisation. It is full on. He will either win or die. Think about that.
69 Stephen Owens
September 23, 2022 at 3:46 pm

One question at a time. Alex initially said that the power outage was because wind turbines failed. When he realised that no one was buying that, he said that gas failed because they had spent the winterising money on renewables. I guess he realised that would not fly, and he changed the story again to the wind did not blow.
The records clearly indicate that the wind continued to blow during the storm.
Can you accept that Alex has got this detail wrong?
I ask you during the storms did the wind continue to blow. It’s a yes or no question.
70 Stephen Owens
September 23, 2022 at 4:43 pm

Big wind farm near Corpus Christi
https://world-weather.info/forecast/usa/corpus_christi/february-2021/
71 patrickm
September 23, 2022 at 5:28 pm

2:03 / 7:59

Rita from Sky news interviewing Alex Epstein ‘Anti-oil maniac’: Joe Biden is ‘threatening’ the US oil industry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4B8J5hPmQM you Steve, are broke.
72 Stephen Owens
September 23, 2022 at 6:10 pm

Alex states that the US government has been “throttling production for years” and that “industries have been gutted”
OIL PRODUCTION USA
Aug 2012 =5,486
June 2015 =9,595
July 2016 =8,460
Feb 2020 =13,100
Then covid
August 2020 9,700
Feb 2022 =11,600

US LNG EXPORTS
2015 =28.38 Billion cubic feet
2021 =3,560.83 Billion cubic feet
This very year 2022 the USA has become the world’s biggest exporter of LNG

Alex seems to have a strained relationship with the truth
73 patrickm
September 24, 2022 at 7:13 am

Texas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gICW2VL434 you are so foolish!
74 Stephen Owens
September 24, 2022 at 1:02 pm

I just don’t get where Alex gets the idea that fossil fuels are under siege. In the 1990s, worldwide coal production was about 4,000 Mt Tons. From 2010 onwards, it’s about 8,000 Mt Tons.
Oil worldwide production in 1998 was 73,000 barrels/day rising to 94,000 barrels/day in 2019
LNG in the 90s was 2,000 BCM and in 2018 hit 4,000 BCM
75 Stephen Owens
September 25, 2022 at 9:49 am

Alex says that we should learn from Alberta in that in 2021 Alberta had a major freeze event and its 2 major energy sources gas and coal performed to expectation, but he could just as well say that Alberta’s, 3 major energy sources gas, coal and wind performed to expectation. I wonder why wind, which provides Alberta with 7% of its energy, was left off the list.
76 patrickm
September 25, 2022 at 4:33 pm

Would you prefer to rethink your above 2 comments and have another crack at making sense or are you happy to leave your position as is?
77 patrickm
September 25, 2022 at 8:16 pm

A hiding to nothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qount9XbSQw that’s how clear this is. Not even in the race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJL7pSq4bpY Shellenberger and this one including Texas stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9BduLswDv8
78 Stephen Owens
September 25, 2022 at 9:48 pm

I don’t watch anything by Alex any more because every time I follow up on a point he makes, I find that he is wrong. Schellenburger at least tries to make the economic argument, but what he doesn’t realise is that the USA can’t stop buying Chinese solar panels because solar is or will become a cheap source of power. As soon as they solve the energy storage (and they will) part of the equation, then solar will become the standard. The US cant refuse cheap panels because Europe will buy them and then have a competitive advantage. Economic nationalism has a cost, economic internationalism has a cost. Always follow the money.
Take the Keystone pipeline, it doesn’t matter if Biden stops or starts it, the thing is really marginal.
Here’s why. They don’t drill for tars sands oil, they open cut mine it. It’s of that low quality they can’t run it through a pipe because it’s the consistency of maple syrup. To get it to run through a pipe, they have to pipe oil from America to Canada so that they can dilute it enough to get it through a pipe.
All this puts the tar sands oils at between $60 and $85 per barrel, break even.
The price of oil today is $78
79 Stephen Owens
September 25, 2022 at 10:40 pm

Does Biden lie? Is the pope a catholic? Do people who say that the US oil industry is being restrained by govt policy live on planet earth?
This is what the US Energy Information Administration says about oil production in 22-23
“U.S. crude oil production in our forecast averages 11.8 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2022 and 12.6 million b/d in 2023, which would set a record for the most U.S. crude oil production during a year. The current record is 12.3 million b/d, set in 2019.”
Nasty old Biden and his war on Big Oil.
80 Stephen Owens
September 26, 2022 at 11:48 am

Remember how the neanderthals were saying electric too expensive, electric no good for tradespeople, electric can’t tow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wLLTmpLb18
81 Stephen Owens
September 27, 2022 at 1:22 pm

I did watch your recently posted vid of Alex being interviewed. It’s more infuriating than the previous vid where the guy confused lithium with rare earth.
Alex, he has to make the case that Obama ran an anti fossil fuel campaign while acknowledging that under Obama there was a 74% increase in oil production. So here it comes, the fracking revolution happened and Obama “didn’t know about it”.
Wow, that’s some claim. The energy sector undergoes a revolution and Obama is blissfully unaware.
It’s not like Obama signed the law ending the 40-year ban on oil exports, but he did. It’s not like Obama appointed pro fracking people like Ernest Monic and Gina McCarthy as energy secretary and head of the EPA, but he did.
I don’t think that anti fossil fuel Obama was any more responsible for the massive increase in fossil fuel production than pro fossil fuel Trump was responsible for its massive decline under his leadership. The president just doesn’t drive production, it’s not his job.
82 patrickm
November 11, 2022 at 1:54 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y-8kfjEWM Neil Oliver on a generally good track.
83 patrickm
November 11, 2022 at 3:31 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niDVwFSQsk0 cop 27 and the idiots all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAiIcPHafk4 only a matter of time before someone gets killed. Jail the lot of them and just say yes to fossil fuels and no to the ALP and their ABC!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOLPhghgLnU Alex Epstein. A great interview
84 patrickm
November 12, 2022 at 5:31 pm

The woke talking to the mad! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UeCIhKG2FQ
and a bit of sanity from Lomborg and Peterson https://youtu.be/NIMLW2RundY
the view from the ALP via Kenny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Guz4GOR6uU
85 patrickm
November 17, 2022 at 12:31 am

http://strangetimes.lastsuperpower.net/?p=3186
Seven years on from the direct Putin intervention in Syria it looks like the world’s MSM is unaware of the rumbling of the unfreezing that is now underway in the collection of enclaves that used to be Assad-run Syria. Assad is still in Damascus! The way this is going he may outlast Putin!

The cancel culture silence from the 1/2 theorists is deafening yet here it all is.

Assad may even outlast the Iranian tyranny. But without a HIRISE protection team, Assad will have a return to the situation that brought on the intervention

’14. Putin will be able to boast success. Obama will be able to boast success and the EU will be able to boast success. Public opinion will remain as bewildered as Patrick.’

I have a fair idea of who are the bewildered people.

Another gold-medal-level analysis from me.
86 patrickm
November 17, 2022 at 4:34 pm

A great talk from Epstein and the old left that are few but allied comes up! https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein/status/1592857629075726337?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
87 patrickm
December 3, 2022 at 1:07 pm

2019 Annual GWPF Lecture – Prof Michael Kelly: Energy Utopias and Engineering Reality. Basic engineering issues from 2019 Annual Lecture Global Warming Policy Forum -GWPF- debunking the alarmist pipedreams of fossil fuel reductions.

-GWPF- Nov 19, 2021
Professor Steven E. Koonin, New York University, and former Under Secretary for Science in the US Department of Energy, gives the 2021 Annual GWPF lecture on ‘Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters’. His book is ‘Unsettled’ and is very good.

Roy Spencer Global Warming; One Scientist’s view of the science and policy. ihmc lecture series. IHMC Florida Institute for Human Machine Cognition 2005 Evening Lecture Series

Dr. John Christy of the University of Alabama-Huntsville testified before the Natural Resources Committee on May 13, 2015, that carbon dioxide emissions have no significant impact on climate change.

2018 Annual GWPF Lecture Prof Richard Lindzen Global Warming For The Two Cultures

Elimination of CO2 is a suicide pact – Professor William Happer on climate change misconceptions Nov 5, 2022
It’s safe to assume no one consciously sets out to challenge a narrative as deeply entrenched and emotionally charged as climate change. Dr William Happer, an American physicist and Professor Emeritus in the Department of Physics at Princeton University, certainly didn’t. It was only in 1991, upon Happer’s appointment by President George W Bush as director of Energy Research in the US Department of Energy, that his interaction with climate change authorities – and their refusal to engage in customary scientific debate on climate change – piqued his interest. Thereafter, Happer was dismissed for his contrarian views and ‘head butting’ with climate change luminary Al Gore, only to be brought back to Washington by former president Donald Trump in 2018. BizNews spoke to Happer (83) about his prodigious career and discovery that the burgeoning climate change hysteria had no scientific basis. Happer meticulously detailed why and how CO2, the “demon gas”, is not a pollutant but is essential to mankind’s prosperity.

Studying the Role of the Sun on Climate – Willie Soon AU
0:24 / 56:55

Judith Curry – Climate Science and the Uncertainty Monster
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How to understand and reason about uncertainty in climate science is a topic that is receiving increasing attention in both the scientific and philosophical literature. This is one perspective on exploring ways to understand, assess and reason about uncertainty in climate science. Uncertainty associated with climate science and the science-policy interface presents unique challenges adding to the complexity of the climate system itself, the potential for adverse socioeconomic impacts of climate change, and politicization of proposed policies to reduce societal vulnerability to climate change. The challenges to handling uncertainty at the science-policy interface are framed using the ‘monster’ metaphor, whereby attempts to tame the monster are described. Uncertainty of climate models is interpreted in the context of model inadequacy, uncertainty in model parameter values, and initial condition uncertainty. The challenges of building confidence in climate models are described. A concerted effort is needed to identify better ways of framing the climate change problem, explore and characterize uncertainty, reason about uncertainty in the context of evidence-based logical hierarchies, and eliminate bias from the consensus building process.

Dr. Judith Curry is Professor and former Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Dr. Curry received a Ph.D. in atmospheric science from the University of Chicago in 1982. Prior to joining the faculty at Georgia Tech, she held faculty positions at the University of Colorado, Penn State University and Purdue University. With research interests spanning a variety of topics in climate, her current interests include climate dynamics of the Arctic, climate dynamics of extreme weather events, and reasoning about climate uncertainty. She is a Fellow of the American Meteorological Society, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the American Geophysical Union.

Dr. Curry has recently presented U.S. Congressional Testimony to the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works and the House Subcommittee on the Environment. She is a prominent public spokesperson on issues associated with the integrity of climate research. Curry serves as president and co-owner of the company Climate Forecast Applications Network LLC (CFAN). CFAN translates the scientific weather and climate research so that governments and industries can better anticipate and manage weather- and climate-related risks. Curry is proprietor of the blog Climate Etc., which discusses current topics in climate science, climate and energy policy, challenges at the science-policy interface, and use of social media in engaging with the public on complex and controversial topics.

All of the above come with a warning alert no less. AS follows…
Context
Climate change
United Nations
Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns, mainly caused by human activities, especially the burning of fossil fuels.

Incredible! They may as well say unacceptable views are expressed in these dangerous lectures!

Plus some utter rot from a so-called expert! Lord Ricketts predicts a stalemate in Ukraine over the winter and says the most likely outcome is a perpetual armistice between the two countries.
88 patrickm
December 4, 2022 at 12:23 pm

Marxists getting blamed for the madness on Sky news -dumb as they come- but the dutch guy points out that it is more like secular reformation more like the puritans then Rowan pipes up that perhaps it’s more like fascism! It’s crystal clear that there is simply no credible right-left theory at work among the sky news rightists.
89 patrickm
December 4, 2022 at 7:38 pm

British psychology student standing up to the woke! Interesting that both the interviewer and the young student can see that these woke types are nothing to do with the Marxists of bygone days who were about economics and logic etc and who wanted nothing better than to debate and engage. Her persecuting academics say stuff like ‘we won’t be meeting because my (her) hate speech is better managed over zoom’. This is a great case and a grand victory coming! Yet later in the interview the anti-communist, anti-Mao hysteria still (inevitably it would seem) comes up. This is a great example of what is unfolding every day now across the woke west! All the same not very different from my experience at Flinders University nearly 30 years ago.
90 patrickm
December 4, 2022 at 11:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixBsfenuafc Offence incident non crime. An oinc! Oct 12, 2022
Is free speech under attack?

According to ex-policeman Harry Miller, the answer is yes.

In this episode of Parallax Views, IEA Head of Cultural Affairs, Marc Glendening, sits down with Harry to discuss his supposedly offensive Tweets that led to a police investigation and to get his opinion on how the UK legal code is biased against free speech.

You can find out more about Harry’s Fair Cop project here:
https://www.faircop.org.uk/case-studi…
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lJ7GezRB0s The bad law project
91 patrickm
December 17, 2022 at 2:54 pm

Understanding Georgia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBFz3e4JLO4
92 patrickm
December 20, 2022 at 8:22 am

100% of the models over-estimate warming! WOW! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJv1IPNZQao

Data shows there’s no climate catastrophe looming – climatologist Dr J Christy debunks the narrative.
93 patrickm
December 20, 2022 at 9:56 am

At the end of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7cwhOqRLk is a reminder of how bad Kissinger is.
94 patrickm
December 20, 2022 at 4:30 pm

China was the last holdout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmPONj8bjIw now we have a worldwide endemic virus. So who got that one correct?
95 patrickm
December 21, 2022 at 10:10 pm

Good Neil Oliver rant on the greens and woke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y-8kfjEWM&t=114s
96 patrickm
March 28, 2023 at 1:46 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgOEGKDVvsg good talk on mining etc

some useful insights on Russia and where the struggle is heading https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDn5CXrofs
Alexander Etkind – Putin is Propelling Russia Backwards in a Self-Destructive Civilisational Decline

How should you deal with Putin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCfpDz1K4HI Anastasia Edel – Once Again Western World Entirely Failed to Predict or Understand Russia’s Actions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBro7RDaRis at about 1:18 very good flag on soldier! But it is upside down? Who knows what it is akk about!
97 patrickm
March 29, 2023 at 11:43 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WlPabNwTog with the ALP and the greens attacking fossil fuels so intensely this Alex Epstein thinking is the antidote.
98 patrickm
March 29, 2023 at 3:34 pm

https://heartland.org/opinion/jay-lehr-r-i-p/ An interesting life! particularly Jay Lehr receiving the “Dauntless Purveyor of Climate Truth Award” at Heartland’s climate conference in 2019.

The right wing is further left than any of the old leftists that run from their errors.
99 patrickm
March 29, 2023 at 11:04 pm

Well done Jo Nova https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNNGiJowbZc great stuff
100 patrickm
March 30, 2023 at 12:08 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0gp7CrwLVA Happer
101 patrickm
April 3, 2023 at 11:12 am

Good work from the rightists
https://climateconference.heartland.org/

WATCH THE WHOLE CONFERENCE

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 25
PATRICK J. MICHAELS BALLROOM: BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER KEYNOTES

Breakfast Keynote – Saturday, Feb. 25, 2023 (00:00 – 45:25)
Marlo Oaks is the treasurer of the state of Utah. He spoke about his efforts in his state to fight ESG (Environment, Social, Governance).

Lunch Keynote – Saturday, Feb. 25, 2023 (Johnson 46:26 – 1:41:19; Boebert 1:41:20 – 2:29:06)
U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) on climate and COVID, then and U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) on climate, energy, and politics.

Dinner Keynote – Saturday, Feb. 25, 2023 (Debate 2:29:07 – 3:30:03; Super Panel 3:30:04 – 4:19:11; James Taylor closing remarks 4:19:12)
Dr. Peter Hartley and Dr. William Happer argue the pros and cons of taxing the emissions of carbon dioxide. PLUS, a “super panel” of several experts to take questions from the audience, and then Heartland Institute President James Taylor delivers remarks to close out The Heartland Institute’s 15th International Conference on Climate Change in Orlando, Florida.

Panel 5A – Killing Agriculture to Save the Planet (00:00 – 1:21:18)
Gregory Wrightstone on “Climate Change and the Midwest: Life in America’s breadbasket is good and getting better”; Patrick Moore on “Golden Rice Now”; David Legates on “Nitrous Oxide (N2O): the New Satanic Gas.” Followed by audience Q&A.

Panel 6A – Today’s Extreme Weather Is Not That Extreme (1:21:19 – 2:52:19)
Stanley Goldenberg on “Why Does it Seem Like Hurricanes Are Getting Stronger and More Destructive”; Joe Bastardi on “Is Weather Getting Worse?”; Christopher Monckton on “Why Extremer Weather Was Wrongly Expected.” Followed by audience Q&A.

Panel 7A – Climate, Energy, and Animals (including Humans) (2:52:20 – 4:18:50)
H. Sterling Burnett on “The Misuse and Abuse of Animals in the Climate Debate”; David Stevenson on how offshore wind is hurting whales and other marine life; Francis Menton on “Challenging EPA’s Greenhouse Gas ‘Endangerment Finding’ in Court.” Followed by audience Q&A.

Panel 8A – The Right Climate Stuff Team on Energy (4:18:51 – 5:52:35)
Tom Moser on “Climate Change Truth and the Path Forward”; Marty Cornell on “NetZero: Materially Improbable”; Gregg Goodnight on “ERCOT and Renewable Power Integration”‘ and Bob Bauman on “The Future of Nuclear Energy.” Followed by audience Q&A.

Panel 5B – Green Energy and Exploitation (00:00 – 1:25:02)
Vijay Jayaraj on “Climate Imperialism”; H. Sterling Burnett on “Green Energy Technology Is Built on Force Labor, Sickness, and Environmental Destruction”; E. Calvin Beisner on “Energy Policy, and the Conquest of Poverty.” Audience Q&A.

Panel 6B – Advancing Reliable Energy (1:25:03 – 2:53:22)
Kevin Dayaratna on “Advancing Reliable Energy: Cost/Benefit Analysis”; Karr Ingham on “Markets: The Key to Abundant, Affordable, Reliable Energy”; Jason Hayes on the “Seven Principles of Sound Energy Policy”; Audience Q&A.

Panel 7B – Why NetZero is Impossible: The Continuing Need and Value of Fossil Fuels (2:53:23 – 4:19:17)
Wolfgang Müller on “The Global Cost of NetZero”; Rob Bradley on “U.S. Electricity: Government vs. Coordination”; Linnea Lueken on “Biofuels Are NOT so Green”; Audience Q&A.

Panel 8B – Government Overreach, or Tyranny? (4:19:18 – 5:48:36)
Jeff Clark on how he fought to rein in the EPA when he was in the Trump administration, and how it operates with a president in the thrall of the climate cult; Myron Ebell on “Decentralized Totalitarianism”; Audience Q&A.

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 24
PATRICK J. MICHAELS BALLROOM: BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER KEYNOTES

Panel 1A – Taking the Temperature of Global Temperatures (00:00 – 1:21:31)
Anthony Watts on “Corrupted Climate Stations and What to Do About Them”; Willie Soon on “Global warming: Mostly Human-caused or Mostly Natural?”; Joe Bastardi on “More Evidence Debunking CO2 as a Climate Control Knob”; Audience Q&A.

Panel 2A – Understanding What’s Really Happening to the Climate (1:21:32 – 2:48:37)
Ross McKitrick on “Updated Climate Sensitivity Estimates and the Social Cost of Carbon”; Judith Curry on “Why Scientists Disagree About Global Warming”; Richard Lindzen on “What I think the Climate is Really Doing”: Audience Q&A.

Panel 3A – Is Climate Science Scientific? (2:48:38 – 4:04:18)
Tom Sheahen on “In Science, Data Trumps Theory: Correcting Errors in Science”; Howard Hayden on “IPCC’s Exercise in Self-contradiction”; Ken Haapala on “The Primacy of Doubt”; Audience Q&A.

Panel 4A – 4:15pm Green Agenda’s Impact on People (4:04:19 – 5:34:25)
Donna Jackson on how “Environmental Justice” is a Scam;” Bob Carlstrom on the “Impact of Higher Green Energy Costs on the Poor and Elderly”; Margaret Byfield on “The Biden Administration’s 30×30 Land Grab”; Audience Q&A.

TRACK B (POLICY/ENERGY, MOSTLY)
WALT CUNNINGHAM BREAKOUT ROOM

NOTE: The video above has chapters, so float your cursor along the bottom of the video to find the part of the video you want to see.

Panel 1B – Consequences of Scarce Energy (00:00 – 1:14:29)
Vijay Jayaraj on “Green or Blood Red” (unfortunately, technical difficulties eliminated most of this presentation and we’re looking to replace it); Benjamin Zycher, Ph.D. on “Biden Administration Responsible for High Energy Costs”; and Marc Morano on “COVID and Climate: The Parallels Are Screaming at Us”; Audience Q&A.

Panel 2B – Defeating ESG (Environment, Social, Governance) (1:14:30 – 2:41:11)
Jason Isaac on “Raising America’s Energy IQ”; Paul Watkins on “Imposing ESG on Companies”; Marlo Lewis on “Arbitrary and Capricious: SEC’s Climate Risk Disclosure Rule”; Audience Q&A.

Panel 3B – What it Takes to Power Our Modern Society (2:41:12 – 4:06:01)
Ronald Stein on “The Elephant in the Room: We’ve Had 200 Years to Replace Fossil Fuels”; Linnea Lueken on “Myths and Legends About the Oil Industry, and How the Truth Combats Them”; Alex Epstein, “Global Human Flourishing Requires Much More Energy”; Audience Q&A.

Panel 4B – Unworkable Climate ‘Solutions’ (4:06:02 – 5:36:36)
Steve Milloy on “Net Zero: Not Needed, Not Possible and Not Survivable”; Kevin Dayaratna on “Unworkable Climate ‘Solutions’ – Carbon-based Regulation”; Ben Lieberman on “The Global War on Air Conditioning”; Audience Q&A.
102 patrickm
April 27, 2023 at 6:54 pm

This is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYWrehjaMFQ Dr Richard Lindzen exposes climate change as a politicised power play motivated by malice and profit.
103 patrickm
April 30, 2023 at 7:24 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YRMajzRKU8 JP interview
Tyranny Through Weaponized Bureaucracy | Dr. Scott Jensen | EP 349
104 patrickm
May 1, 2023 at 6:49 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lm-sZTfQ1k
Climate Change: Scientific vs. Ideological Disagreements. Professor Daniel Bonevac

3,990 views Mar 9, 2021
Views about global warming and citizens’ reactions to climate change are certainly among the most polarized and polarizing issues of our contemporary society. In this lecture, Dr. Daniel Bonevac will help us explore this particular divide, uncovering the real questions, debates, policy options, and tradeoffs regarding climate change. No virtue-signaling: this lecture will be an occasion to engage with the science and to address the inevitable disagreements that exist among reasonable people of goodwill.
105 patrickm
May 10, 2023 at 6:44 pm

I love CP!
Camille Paglia: Cultural Critic, Provocateur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBpZT1eewo
Truth Bombs about Feminism, Male Creativity & Generation Snowflake – Camille Paglia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvrxQ4M3EOo
6 yrs back! and there are plenty more well worth watching!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nL8eRuGMmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwXudI2iojs
and almost 30 yrs on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbSswmT4f6c much to reflect on!
106 patrickm
June 7, 2023 at 9:34 pm

He (bassicly) gets it because he has read Julian Simon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yppUIhqhJo
Apr 14, 2023 Off Script | Telegraph | Podcast
As new census data shows Britain’s demographics changing at historic rates, what does a future Britain look like? Is the world over or underpopulated? And how does fertility impact global power struggles? To answer these questions Steven Edginton is joined by the leading demographer Paul Morland.
107 patrickm
June 7, 2023 at 11:25 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfjTeTLHQng

Michael Shellenberger: Elites want to justify greater censorship & implement a censorship apparatus
108 patrickm
June 10, 2023 at 5:15 pm

Alex Epstein on sky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJSDiW1U8ZU Alex Epstein slams push for ‘personal carbon allowance’
energy is just this incidental thing! Spot on Alex!
109 patrickm
June 11, 2023 at 4:03 pm

Censorship issues are red hot! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0ziqwa0fo Elon Musk’s Twitter free speech crusade is succeeding | Michael Shellenberger interview
‘We had this debate hundreds of years ago’ well said!

The new expression is the Censorship Industrial Complex CIC.
110 patrickm
October 20, 2023 at 12:34 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXomKN6eMz4
(771) Restoring the Sciences: Rethinking Climate Risk with Judith Curry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjYaQRXRRnE
(774) Manufacturing Consent in Times of Crisis – Dr. Richard Lindzen, Harvard/MIT Climate Scientist DS 183 – YouTube
18,236 views Sep 4, 2023 DemystifySci Podcast
Dr. Richard Lindzen is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He served as the Gordon McKay Professor of Dynamic Meteorology at Harvard University and was appointed as the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the MIT. Dr. Lindzen has disputed the scientific consensus on climate change and criticizes what he has called “climate alarmism”. Rather than picking apart the arguments for or against said climate narratives, our conversation is largely focused on the question of what would motivate such alleged deception were it found to be the case. Tell us your thoughts in the comments!
00:00:00 Go!
00:01:17 Outsider scientific research
00:04:33 Maxwell & the academic press
00:07:43 Editors serve the industry
00:12:16 Climate narration
00:20:33 Pressure against dissent
00:25:56 The Iris Effect
00:33:38 Motivating the standard narrative
00:43:30 Paleoclimate
00:48:06 Rotation of Earth v. airflow
00:57:24 Myopic considerations
01:05:57 Education as indoctrination
01:11:50 Science as guillotine
01:17:33 Defined v. undefined problem solving
01:21:48 Incentive wars
01:26:55 Institutional conditions
01:35:25 Manipulation of graphs
01:37:45 Different kinds of intelligent conversation
01:41:12 Academics as politics
01:47:02 Venus & climate science
01:55:38 University experience
02:07:30 Endless war
02:15:05 Youtube censorship, throttling, shadowbans
02:18:33 Dealing with villification
02:26:45 Secret history of GISS
02:34:32 Closing thoughts
111 patrickm
November 1, 2023 at 11:06 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2DIEzdJLaA&list=RDCMUCRUdudcEw4Uenxz-MAG7rGA&index=3
Great news, a valiant attempt to think!

Oct 31, 2023
This talk is from the first day of the ARC Conference 2023 where Paul Marshall launched the ‘Free Markets and Good Governance’ stream. To protect true free market Capitalism, which has brought untold prosperity to the world, we might fight against its mutant siblings – Monopolies, Cronyism, and Woke Capitalism.

Sir Paul Marshall is CIO and Chairman of Marshall Wace LLP, founder and owner of UnHerd Media, and an investor in GB News Ltd. He is a founding Trustee of Ark, the children’s charity, and Chairman of Ark Schools.
112 Steve Owens
November 2, 2023 at 11:28 am

I guess that you put this clown up for us to ridicule. His argument being that human development was dependent on “Free markets” What absolute horse shit. Great Britain became the greatest manufacturing and trading nation without one iota of a free market.
Britain kicked off its greatness with the agricultural revolution but the large land holding necessary for this were not due to a free market but by the enclosure laws where the wealthy acquired common land. It was through the forceful dispossession of the peasant.
Britain then developed its agriculture not through free markets but through the Corn laws yes tariffs on foreign grain not ended until 1846. Greatness was achieved not through free trade but by having 4 million slaves develop the cotton that would feed the cloth mills of Lancashire not free trade. Britain became a great trading nation through use of the Navigation Acts where all trade within the British empire had to use British ships.
These free enterprise charlatans have their predecessors. You need look no further that John Stuart Mill in his book On Liberty 1859 to find and endorsement of free trade in Opium by use of military force.
Once a country becomes top dog they embrace free trade because they can crush rivals. Britain did become the biggest advocate for free trade but only when it sat on the top of the heap not while it was climbing to the top.
113 patrickm
March 18, 2024 at 2:25 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nulK60b1lnA
“Worst Medical Scandal In History!” Michael Shellenberger | The Winston Marshall Show #009
mostly radical trans criticism no notion of pseudo-left concept.
114 patrickm
April 21, 2024 at 8:31 am

Quik as..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILEMV0xKGh4 Freddy from unheard exposing the shutdown merchants!

and the follow up’s from the ARC above that went so directly over Steve’s head (how unusual) and we get the context warning ! well Freddy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klcsgp3wrh4&list=RDCMUCRUdudcEw4Uenxz-MAG7rGA&index=3
115 Patrick Muldowney
December 26, 2024 at 9:51 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Nz-4eEBTw
Electric vehicles and reality! A great lecture exposing the ‘green’ anti car thugs!
116 steve Owens
December 27, 2024 at 8:33 am

It is hard to argue against this guy’s logic. The car will never replace the horse because in 1900 we are simply not mining enough minerals to build that many cars plus as cars become more popular the price of inputs will skyrocket as he says basic supply and demand, economics 101.
His view of the world is static, and I agree with him if nothing changes then the transition to electrification is impossible. At least he didn’t say that electric cars can’t tow although he might I haven’t quite finished the lengthy talk.
Yes, as we all know, as demand increases so does price that’s why since 2014 the price of a lithium cell has fallen by 73%. In 2022 the spot price of lithium was over $80K US per ton whereas today the price is close to $10K US per ton.
There are lots of reasons electrification of the world will fail. Jesus the Chinese are sourcing lithium from Lepidolite can you believe that, talk about inefficiencies.
See things always improve and as an example I use you, you used to post videos of people claiming that Lithium is a rare earth, now you post videos of people saying lithium is not a rare earth, See improvement before our very eyes.
117 Patrick Muldowney
December 27, 2024 at 11:43 am

The world is desperately short of energy and we need vastly more…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6aPCGGDNPU
all the current bad policies are getting in the way of development. Alex Epstein has totally answered your position in this clip. The view is not static at all but is consistent. So unlike you, these people keep a focus on the open competition of unfettered markets. You turn a ridiculous blind eye to the basic problem. The basic problem is people who want to interfere with markets because you know the correct price of the externalities that are supposed to be associated with carbon dioxide. Hence your demand for a price on carbon and all else flows from this. Hence we have the world of a Paris agreement that Trump will once again repudiate and he will do it for very good reasons that both sides understand. Hiding the fact that you want to put your ‘thumb on the scale’ and that my side insist that you not do so is as ridiculous as you usually are.
118 steve Owens
December 27, 2024 at 12:45 pm

Jesus unfettered markets. You are joking surely. The 3 presidents ranked in order of running fettered markets are in order Hoover, Trump, Biden. Unfettered markets thankyou I needed a laugh today. Here we can have some fun. Last August the USA produced 13401.00 BBL/D/1K. I don’t think that when Trump comes in and introduces “unfettered markets” the USA will produce more than it did in August 2024. I also don’t think he will get the Keystone pipeline up but these are milestones and we can judge what “unfettered markets” do.
Just to be clear about my position I don’t think the world will pivot away from fossil fuels in our lifetime and I think the Paris accord and all the COPs that followed are bullshit.
All of modern development came from industrial policy not unfettered markets.
UK Corn Laws and Navigation acts were Industrial policy
USA Paul Bairoch called the U.S., “the mother country and bastion of modern protectionism.” ie Industrial policy
The USSR under Stalin was nothing but industrial policy as the state directed every investment.
No great economy was built with unfettered markets the exact opposite is true but the propaganda demands that people believe in unfettered markets. It’s a belief that defies reality.
119 steve Owens
December 27, 2024 at 12:53 pm

I should just add Japan post WW2 and China post Mao massive development all because of Industrial policy where the government sets targets and directs investment to achieve those targets. Just name the country that had massive development because of unfettered markets.
120 Patrick Muldowney
December 27, 2024 at 1:38 pm

How fucking dopey can you get! Now Steve is back to being a communist theoretician. FINE I am all for Industrial policy. The trouble is that the choice is not between an Industrialization policy where rapid development is the goal and a ‘just leave it to the actions of individual capitals to do the job of development’; the choice is between green restrictions on industrial development to save the planet and recognizing that machines are fed with fossil fuels that are continuing to bring this rapid development when not restricted by policy as they have been.

Australia is a classic example of the problem. Both the open conservatives in the Liberal party and Teals and the hidden conservatives in the ALP and Greens have been attacking carbon dioxide for as long as I can remember.

How on earth did we go from (on memory) the worlds cheapest energy or thereabouts to the most expensive or thereabouts? This policy imposed cost burden must have consequences that are not good for the working classes let alone poor people!

Steve is being as slippery as ever! On the one hand ‘Just to be clear about my position I don’t think the world will pivot away from fossil fuels in our lifetime and I think the Paris accord and all the COPs that followed are bullshit.’ but on the other hand Australia where we live is imposing costs on carbon and Steve is always on the side of those that are doing so! The world will not ‘pivot away’ from what works as machine food; only the King of England and David Attenborough and Boris Johnson, and Malcolm Turnbull and Albanese. The question is who do we favour Matt Canavan or Chris Bowen?
121 steve Owens
December 27, 2024 at 1:52 pm

I find you hard to follow at 11.43 you state “The basic problem is people who want to interfere with markets…” Then in less than 2 hours you say “FINE I’m all for Industrial policy” but Industrial policy is interfering with markets. Industrial policy is the definition of interfering with markets.
122 Patrick Muldowney
December 27, 2024 at 3:28 pm

Steve backs Chris Bowen!
123 steve Owens
December 27, 2024 at 3:48 pm

Let’s get real. The only Industry policy that matters is the US Inflation Reduction Act. The Biden admin decided that the future is in battery technology and to this end they are funneling $780 Billion into creating battery mega factories. Now of the top 20 projects 19 are in congressional districts represented by Republicans. If Trump wants to reverse the IRA all he has to do is convince Republican members of Congress that the money promised to their electors is being withdrawn.
If you need some help working this out, I can help with an example. When Nixon was president, he appointed a guy to examine waste. The guy (sorry I have forgotten his name) came up with the idea that water from the Hoover dam supplied to people in California, Nevada and Arizona was being sold below cost. Now to rectify this all Nixon needed was to get it through congress. It should come as no surprise that the representatives of those states were strongly opposed to extra charges being put on their voters and the idea was dead in the water.
124 steve Owens
December 28, 2024 at 10:23 pm

At the beginning of this century the Chinese government made a decision to dominate the battery space. They set up lithium processing factories, now almost all lithium (hard rock) is processed in China. They set up battery factories and now they are the dominant battery producer in the world. They started building electric cars and now the best EV’s come from China. EV’s are as good if not better than petrol cars now. There is still a lot of improvement in EV’s to come. Petrol cars have been developed for over 100 years EV’s barely 20. I think the next big innovation will be in solid state batteries which will make them lighter, go further and be safer. The final hitch is price. When will solid state batteries be cost competitive, I don’t know, but my money is on not too long. The other innovation in the wind is Sodium Ion batteries. These will be cheaper but heavier and will be used in city cars, the weight issue will be compensated by smaller batteries for short trip driving. Sodium ion batteries will mainly be used for stationary storage. Power walls in people’s homes will become economical (they are not currently) People will use these to charge their cars very cheaply and many cars will never see a non-home charging station, the electricity can be accessed at the lowest cost and of course EV’s don’t need servicing.
The EU and the USA have noticed this, and they are scrambling to create a competitive battery industry, but they are well behind, and the drill baby drill mentality may condemn the USA to using the technology of a century ago.
Now may be the move to electrification will become a giant white elephant and petrol will remain dominant, but this is not the opinion in China the EU or in America currently.
Innovate or die.
125 Patrick Muldowney
December 30, 2024 at 1:20 pm

The anti-communist political forces that Steve follows along behind are; like Vlad Putin, liars and bullies and quite obviously so. All the nice sounding spin that Steve is putting forth above is just that…spin. The reality is vile compulsion – bullying and lying about what is the reality is the all important bit.

IF what Steve was saying above was even remotely relevant then there would be zero need to say it! Let me just repeat that for Steve’s benefit; zero need to say it! The only need to tell me how good this all is, is because Steve wants to conceal the compulsion and bullying that is the reality.

I do not care what gets developed and becomes popular. Whatever people want to drive is fine by me, and Steve knows this or ought to! What this is all about is the blatant ‘industrial policy’ of the Chris Bowen types. These bullies want to save the planet and so have signed up to costly Paris agreements and so forth. They want to dictate what will be ‘chosen’. They insist that they know the real cost of carbon dioxide emissions, and insist that this externality burden, currently born by nature and climate, be passed to the nasty humans that are burning fossil fuels!

Steve says this is a moral question. He rejects, ‘The moral case for fossil fuels’ as put forth by Alex Epstein and deceitfully presents the argument as if this is simple development where the latest system is naturally replacing an outmoded one. The VCR was replaced by the DVD and now both have been replaced BUT they were replaced without any compulsion whatsoever. Nobody told Steve when he had to get rid of his VCR; the alternatives were just placed before him and HE chose what and when etc..

The energy markets and transport systems are NOT operating in this manner and Steve is fully aware of this. There have been well over 40 years of this poisonous green twaddle and the ALP/ABC have been ramming their ‘industrial policies’ down our throats for all this time. We have Steve with the cranks of just stop oil! We have the mindless promotion of the snarling child-saint Greta. The incessant twaddle coming out of the ‘population bomb’ believing crackpots, like Paul Ehrlich, who were 100% wrong. The so called ‘settled science’ of the Tim Flannery, beach front property owner.(“there wont be enough rain to fill dams again”) The Bowen / Albanese ‘climate denier’ dishonest method; attacking the player not the ball by saying people who have a different view are ignorant deniers, and then we have the ‘cancel culture’!

People pushing EV’s in the manner that Steve is, are one of two types: either a useful idiot that can’t work reality out, or are one of the liars. Useless either way and once more not on the podium! ‘Drill baby drill’, is the correct response to all those who want to get in the way.

Climate change twaddle is as boring as the EV cars that you are letting the bullies hide in. They are not just in competition they have their thumbs pushing firmly on the scale and Steve knows it.
126 steve Owens
December 30, 2024 at 4:30 pm

I find it sweet that a “Marxist” would claim that production of commodities is driven by consumer preference, nothing to do with massive subsidies that the government provides. We all went out and bought Holden cars because we liked Holden cars nothing to do with the subsidies and the tariffs that the government threw at GMH.
EV’s are a “Green” conspiracy? China decades ago, identified batteries as the soon to be dominant technology. They started subsidizing battery production last century. Were they just prefiguring Greta or did they just make a call and take actions to honour that call.
Finally, Alex. About 15 years ago Texas had a freezing event and lost power. They held an investigation and decided that water in the gas well heads had frozen. They recommended that the well heads be winterized basically small heat pumps attached to the well head to stop the water which is mixed in with the gas from freezing. The government ignore these recommendations and a decade later they had a big freezing event and people died of cold in their homes. Alex responded to this by supplying talking points that put the blame on renewables and the blame away from government culpability.
127 steve Owens
December 30, 2024 at 10:40 pm

Shock horror that the government might distort the sacred principals of free enterprise. How dare they favour EV’s over ICE cars.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-u-s-companies-receive-the-most-government-subsidies/
128 Patrick Muldowney
December 31, 2024 at 12:25 am

Steve is desperate to hide behind a link that proves he is in fact a simple dissembler. He posts a link to company’s that have somehow received subsidies since the year 2000. On that list is 3rd place Ford 7.7B and 4th place is GM 7.5B 12 place is VW at 4.1B and Stellantis is 18th at 2,8B and 17th place is Tesla with a massive 2,8 billion!

Now, why would I say massive for Tesla? Well Steve knows the volume of ICE cars sold over those years and he also knows how many of those five companies produce EV’s

Wouldn’t you know it; Steve is busy hiding what everyone else knows to be the problem. He just throws some dust around without trying to make any sense of what he is throwing.

What if we do some digging and divide the amounts by the number of vehicles sold over that period? Well Steve could work out something but he didn’t. A lot of extra work would be required to get at what the rate of subsidy per unit would be. However, for an indication of what to do we could estimate sales at say 13million units per year, multiply that by 24 years and get 312million ++ ICE units, then we could do something special and realize that they are all into EV production and getting subsidized for new plant etc.. But before we look at how this might impact the numbers let’s do the first calculation and say that 22.1 B went to 3,4,12 and 18. Now let’s just take off 5.1 billion for all the electric stuff the 4 are up to; that leaves us with 17billion to divide amongst say 320million ICE units,that roughly works out at 53.13c per unit. Now the figures for Tesla could be given, the numbers started in 2008 and have ramped up of late so could be 3million by now. I don’t know – because like Steve I haven’t done the detailed work, but this is back of an envelope exercise pending Steve’s massive effort to enlighten us all. But at any rate that runs out at about 933.33c per unit or about 17.57 times the rate of ‘subsidy’.

Now I would guess that it is far worse than that but this is enough to indicate the point! Steve won’t do the work and makes wrong assumptions from mind-blowingly simple ‘data’ presentations.
129 Patrick Muldowney
December 31, 2024 at 12:39 am

Unreliable outcomes have ramped up since unreliable energy has been deliberately inflicted on the energy market. So called ‘renewables’ are the problem. Shutting down reliable and cheap coal plants and replacing them with unreliable wind and solar has made energy far more expensive and ‘they’ do it no less than ‘to save the planet’ but from a none existent problem with policies that ultimately have no effect anyway.

Trump on day 1 will scrap the Paris joke and get rid of the alarmists who are pushing this rot from places like the EPA. Keystone will be completed and all that will have happened is that a religion that is nothing but ‘junk science’ will have been kicked further down the road.

Steve will be working for Albo and the myth of net zero!
130 steve Owens
December 31, 2024 at 11:06 am

Wow all those subsidies going to EV’s and only $19.9 Billion going to fossil fuel companies.
Coal being replaced by windmills? Are you sure about that? I think the figures say something else. Since 2007 US energy use has stabilized at about 4 billion kWh. In 2007 coal contributed 2016 kWh and LNG 897 a total of 2,913 billion kWh
In 2022 Coal contributed 832 and LNG 1,687 a total of 2519 kWh
So, when you add coal to LNG there has been a reduction of fossil fuel of 394 kWh
So yes, coal has been replaced but it has been replaced by LNG.
131 Patrick Muldowney
December 31, 2024 at 12:09 pm

So Steve is not able to deal with the proposition that EV’s are attracting perhaps 17.5 times more government subsidies at the point of manufacture!

Thus, he repeats the bigger number for the vastly more ICE cars produced by company’s that virtually all also make EV’s; and Steve calls them fossil fuel companies. Cute! He refuses to think about what has been said above by me. That is spam!

But Steve is well known for being in the unable to think category so here is some more grist for such overtaxed capacities.

EV’s once they are sold, start to be used and do not pay the constant and massive road tax that is paid by fossil fueled vehicles. Day in day out they free load! It is a scandal of course and one that has Musk sticking close to the EV danger Trump. I wonder how long before the free loading issue will come up? Trump got serious with NATO countries like Canada freeloading on US military spending, he ought to get serious about EV freeloading! Interesting how Trudeau is a big promoter of all this and Musk rakes it in! I am not holding my breath about all manner of issues about the Trump agenda, but I am delighted that the Paris crap will be out the door on day 1.

As for your further foolishness re coal; obviously unreliables have destabilised the grids that they have distorted. They are unnecessary parasites robbing the necessary base load generators of all important critical income streams; as well as introducing management complexity into the system. Complexity introduces costs!

Steve’s beloved Greens, Teals, Turnbull Liberals, and dominant ALP factions can’t hide the costs of their religion. That is all it is; an anti carbon dioxide cult if you prefer. Snowy 2.0 is a classic example of the massive costs over-runs.

Your answer is as usual compulsion and a pretense that YOU are a democrat! You are no such thing. You are now and always have been on the opposite side of the real struggle for democracy.

You have failed to say anything worth responding to further and have once again resorted to obfuscation.
132 steve Owens
December 31, 2024 at 12:57 pm

I think you have misread my post. I said 19.9 billion going to fossil fuel companies not 19.9 going to ICE manufactures.
The companies in my list are
Cheniere an LNG company
Venture Global an LNG pipeline company
Sempra a company that produces LNG and transmission infrastructure
NRG a natural gas company
Sasol a petro-chemical processor company
The subsidizes for all these companies since 2000 amount to $19.9 billion.
I can’t parse the subsidizes between ICE and EV’s of the major auto companies but lets say that the legacy auto makers get the same as Tesla for their EV’s despite this probably being an over estimation then if they all get equal to Tesla the EV subsidy is $14 billion. Yes $5.9 billion less than what is gifted to straight up fossil fuel plays.
133 Patrick Muldowney
January 1, 2025 at 12:24 am

You are correct I did think you were talking about the issue and not wandering off to yet another dead end. As for your last spam; you are listening to an AI generated load of jargon! It’s just AI churned out rubbish and you could tell this if you were listening. AI spam like this is not useful and so into the bin it goes!
134 steve Owens
January 1, 2025 at 9:09 am

I think you have made yourself very clear. You are defending the technology that has dominated the auto industry during the last century. I am a champion for the technology that will revolutionise the auto industry this century.
I linked to a video whose main message was innovate or die. The video went through the 7 reasons why the auto industries of America, Germany and Japan had become as Lenin said coupon clippers.
A number of years ago I became a fan of Cathie Wood and her idea that there are 5 revolutionary technologies that are about to turn the world upside down. One was energy storage and another was AI. You are arguing against the new energy storage and now through your censorship against AI.
I rest my case.
135 Patrick Muldowney
January 1, 2025 at 1:34 pm

‘now through your censorship against AI’
You can retract that if you would like to and reconsider what you either did unknowingly or knowingly. You presented AI as if it was the work of a man. It is a simple fraud! It is unacceptable to do what you did either way.

You never said that here is an AI take on the issue what you said was something false!

What is more you have already been told that I do not care about VCR’s Dvd’s or anything else that gets invented. You are recklessly misrepresenting my position while NOT engaging with the arguments. This is your usual and in the end pointless style because it never stands up to the test of time nor independent review! Once again you are not on the podium and accusing me of censorship is laughable. I do keep this site free of spam so when you start to do it you to will be told what is not acceptable. Posting material in a spam manner is unacceptable. Don’t do it again!
136 Patrick Muldowney
January 1, 2025 at 4:00 pm

BTW if 100% of reliable generating capacity is replaced by 100% reliable energy generating capacity ‘base load’ would never ever be mentioned. The term is only relevant because unreliable energy generators were permitted to enter the market and fuck up the whole thing! These mostly parasitical energy entrants (there are some legitimate applications) were a wrong answer to a wrong question.

I do not care about how gas was pushed forward and helped by politicians to replace other base load generating. The point is that almost none of this ought to be happening. It’s just a religion!

The world does not need a ‘champion’ for EV’s.

The worlds poor and working people need champions like the rightist Alex Epstein who have made the solid ‘Moral Case for Fossil Fuels’.

The mass of people require cheaper energy. We require abundant ‘instant’ energy that continually cheapens as we continue to develop our industrial capacities. That is the good part of capitalism.

Genuine pollutants can be identified and dealt with but CO2 has been -like Pell- falsely accused. It was the same thing with DDT. Millions died as a result!

How we get abundant energy is an economic question that does not require an EPA that declares Carbon Dioxide to be a pollutant! It is plant food.

Once you realise that humans are good for replacing the naturally falling CO2 then the big fear that has a grip on so many people just disappears. You are facing the wrong way. To rebuild Ukraine and Syria etc the last thing that is needed is a bunch of greenies getting in the way of getting real things done. Only greens will oppose the reconstruction of the dam that was once the pride of the first five year plan!

For the west ‘Wrong Way Go Back’ ought to be the catch phrase!

However there is room for some hope as western people are now quite regularly catching on to the woke policy bankrupts that have done so much damage over the last 40-50 years.

The future is bright for abundance and progress in this the 25th year of the 21st Century.

Assad no longer rules Syria, now who saw that coming? (Well modesty forbids; but then I only did so in a general sense as I have been a bit distracted with events in Ukraine; however my work on Syria has stood the test of time and others work -both genuine left and right and pseudoleft – have not!).

Who was predicting the fall of Putin and the huge struggle for democracy in the eastern swamp? Not many and when did they start to predict it? Naturally that is the long term trends! As I have argued over more than a decade Putin is a strategic dolt! But nothing is currently in sight and contingency plays such a large roll; it all becomes a bit what if… Nevertheless Georgia, Moldova, Belarus are only the most obvious countries that are all now coming into play.

Russia has a profound class struggle on the way that will take decades of fighting back against the currently all powerful gangster classes, there is just no indication of what will spark it at this stage. But as Mao said ‘a single park can start a prairie fire’ and when the current situations does breakdown you had better believe that it will be the proletariat of Moscow and St Petersburg that will play the decisive role in progressing Russia beyond this current era of fascism. And without a doubt the current regime is a fascist regime!

Gangster classes that run their fascist zones, enclaves, countries or neighborhoods are not going to give up their way of life without a massive struggle either, so where can we look to for resistance and to who for leadership?

Looks to me like there will HAVE to be an industrial development policy in some sort of planned economic model where ‘surplus’ people are not just left to rot. Looks to me like unemployment and revolution will go hand in hand and that implies class interests.

The western world now deals with war with Russia as the day by day reality so this looks more and more like a world wide issue is brewing. I can’t shake the notion that the complexity that I saw in 2011 in Syria when the death toll was about 3,000 is the micro example of what is now before us globally and look where that one went on a ‘micro’ level!

So in one sense I think that WW3 is already upon us!

Events continue to draw in more countries as the years unfold and still there is no credible theory that is emerging in the western world that can be identified as radically left! The concept of pseudoleft is however the essential big stick required to expose the rightists who parade in leftist garb. Greens are the leading example but it’s a wall to wall issue for the masses to sort through.

Who is now talking about the real trends for Nations, Countries and the People? Who is suffering from TDS? Who can’t think past their anti communist stand? Pseudoleftists are abundant but mostly irrelevant. The ‘realist’ right still remain the biggest blockage to development.

Powerful people will emerge AFTER Putin and they will not realise that they can’t just once again sell stuff off for penny’s in the dollar to another bunch of carpet-baggers. There will be plenty of those that have exactly that agenda and doing the same stuff over again and expecting a different result might well be the definition of madness.

A new ruling class with a new rightwing nationalism will return no matter what. These forces are extremely powerful and have nothing else to do than fight for their interest so they will.

‘Cast aside illusions, prepare for struggle’…

Only 20 Days till the second coming no less! Hallelujah!

Happy New year.
137 steve Owens
January 1, 2025 at 6:16 pm

I guess we need to talk global warming so what I will do is break it down in point form so you can point to exactly where I go wrong.
P1 The sun is hot
P2 The sun radiates heat some of which hits earth
P3 Some of the radiant heat that hits earth reradiates back into space
P4 the earth is surrounded by gasses which we call the atmosphere
P5 the atmosphere consists of many gasses.
P6 gasses in the atmosphere have a tendency to obstruct the escaping reflected heat and redirect it back towards earth.
P7 this principle has been understood for many years and has been called the greenhouse effect
P8 Different gasses have different coefficients as to their greenhouse effect
P9 If you add gasses with a high coefficient to the atmosphere the greenhouse effect will be enhanced. CO2 has a high coefficient.
P10 Since the start of the Industrial Revolution an estimated 2,000 billion metric tons of CO2 have been introduced into the atmosphere
P11 Some people say this is problematic and some people say it is not problematic
P12 I can’t tell you if this change to the atmosphere represents a danger to life as we know it, but I am happy to er on the side of caution
P13 The world will have to cope as every year we pump more not less CO2 into the atmosphere.

As to Trump’s return, I am pretty relaxed as I wrote on Bluesky “I think people should worry about Trump but not about anything he has said. Last time he said he would repeal Obama care, approve the Keystone pipeline, lock up Hillary, invest $550 Billion in infrastructure, build a wall, have 4% growth, bring back manufacturing, eliminate waste. He did none of it.”
I am particularly interested in how DOGE will eliminate $2 Trillion from the budget given that Trump campaigned on big new spending promises and that congressional approval is necessary for many budgetary items.
I do note one area; the government is paying some billionaire money to put useless rockets up in some attempt to colonize Mars. Maybe Elon could look into that.
138 Patrick Muldowney
January 1, 2025 at 7:20 pm

Did you know that you presented an AI rant as the work of a man or were you taken in by it?
139 steve Owens
January 2, 2025 at 8:30 am

This is just sad. You have exercised your authority to censor a video I linked to because you believe it was AI generated and that it is a rant and spam.
The video in question has now been on the internet for 2 days. It has received 30K views and 4.2K likes. Pretty good for spam. The you tube channel it comes from ‘Connecting the dots’ has 58.2K subscribers.
Who cares if they use AI to produce a video that gets very positive comments.
The topic of the video is innovate or die and it goes through 7 methods whereby the legacy auto makers of America, Germany and Japan have turned themselves from leading innovators to as Lenin put it coupon clippers.
You may not want to watch the video because of its spooky AI but that is exactly what is wrong with the Western mentality.
140 Patrick Muldowney
January 2, 2025 at 8:42 pm

There are far more interesting things to listen to from the work of far more credible people blob:https://notebooklm.google.com/e36ab6b9-d9c4-4c6d-9c93-3c6874d025b8
141 Patrick Muldowney
January 2, 2025 at 9:07 pm

Mr Ponzi was an ‘innovator’. His scheme attracted people, because a ‘good’ scheme will attract lots of people; another way to look at such a scheme is that a BAD one attracts lots of people. Either way you put it, an attractive fraud is still a fraud and it’s not to be tolerated! It’s something to be exposed and prevented. Open, honest and above board people who are trying to solve problems understand that counterfeit and fraud are their direct ‘enemies’.

Now it looks to me that you are not sure if this fraud that you dumped on this site with no comment- is a fraud. Indeed you go further down the rabbit hole and now argue the point that you don’t even know if fraud matters. You now say look how many people are being attracted to this fraud as if that is relevant. ‘The video in question has now been on the internet for 2 days. It has received 30K views and 4.2K likes. Pretty good for spam. The you tube channel it comes from ‘Connecting the dots’ has 58.2K subscribers.’ So in your world the bigger the fraud the better and so conclude; ‘Who cares if they use AI to produce a video that gets very positive comments. ‘

So it’s not that you can’t answer, it’s just that you won’t answer me. Because if you did know then… (x) and if you didn’t then….(y) and you’re not brave enough to take a stand. So you waffle about me being some form of anti innovation sad person involved in censorship!
‘This is just sad. You have exercised your authority to censor a video I linked to because you believe it was AI generated and that it is a rant and spam. ‘ And ‘You may not want to watch the video because of its spooky AI but that is exactly what is wrong with the Western mentality.’

Now Steve has it both ways and has not taken a stand over what is at stake. Fraud!

You know what I think because I have told you. But you won’t tell me what you think!

Actually you don’t even know that I ought to concern myself because the particular spam is popular and in line with your views on ‘the precautionary principle’, hence you actually recommend that, to be safe, I should run with the herd or in other words ‘get in on the ground floor! Because…
‘The topic of the video is innovate or die and it goes through 7 methods whereby the legacy auto makers of America, Germany and Japan have turned themselves from leading innovators to as Lenin put it coupon clippers. ‘

That is the full method on display. The word salad can be justified by you because as far as you’re concerned in this case ‘the end justifies the means’.

Your word salad dishonesty IMV is a big contributor to why you are unable to solve so many of the problems that have come up on this site over the years. Thinking through complex issues requires an open, honest and above board approach. The Pell case; the Flinders University scandal; Syrian revolution; Rojava; Libya; Ukraine; Georgia; on and on. The herd has a well known view on Carbon Dioxide and the Iraqi revolution; Mao the monster; Stalin and Lenin so predictably lost within the cloud of dust is Wrong-Way-Steve, priding himself on his innovative and original thinking. The reality is that all these issues have been beyond Steve and that’s not anywhere near the comprehensive list of his failures.

The following are a couple of links to what I think are useful work being done to expose the ‘innovate or die’ excuse used to conceal phenomenon like Bitcoin and other forms of counterfeit money, or humans etc..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brABoguf7uc
Bitcoin: The Future, or World’s Greatest Scam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3EYKuFGJ5c
The Fake Genius: a $30 BILLION Fraud.

I was an early adopter of computers and the internet, DVD’s were an innovation and I bought one just as I -like everybody else- had bought a VHS and so forth. Nobody had to impose their religious views on me or Steve as we took up the latest tech when we did. Flat screens, mobile phones, all manner of ‘innovate or die’ stuff from companies that I never thought about and don’t think about now. I have no brand loyalty but have naturally come to respect some quality brands and can spot some of the cheap and nasty types. The point being I have never had to be compelled by the people who brought us the population bomb madness, and who built the desalination plants instead of pumping water from the Murray!

But this latest rot from Steve and the thugs he supports is nothing of the sort. This is do as you are told and keep silent or we will silence you. Your stand is that if ‘we’ (good people from the ABC / ALP) can’t silence you, we will drown you out with white noise and our bots! We will use every dirty trick we can think of to impose our views, and we will claim to be what we are not! What they are not is democrats! They are authoritarian rats.

Every single policy from these fools are duds: Shopping bags; eggs; container deposit legislation; none of it is innovate or die! It is all ‘religious’ rot and someone ends up making money and having a profound interest in keeping the bad ideas going! These people are beyond any reasoned debate. That is Steve Owens! Unable to say what he thinks!

How was it Steve could not see what was wrong with the Pell persecution?

Did Steve know that he presented an AI rant as the work of a man, or was he taken in by it?
142 steve Owens
January 3, 2025 at 11:45 am

My support of EV’s has nothing to do with climate change. We have pumped 2,000 billion metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. To imagine this has no effect is silly but whatever effect 2,000 billion metric tons has done, it is done and increasing. The attempts to reverse this trend are futile I just cross my fingers and hope Greta is wrong.
Why I support EV’s is that they are better cars than ICE cars. ICE cars are a mature technology v batteries which are a developing technology but already an electric motor makes a car go faster, pull harder and already EV’s are better than ICE cars (with the exception of Jaguars which are awful)
Soon we will have cheaper safer lighter longer lasting batteries. The old technology is dead long live the new technology which also will reduce air pollution. When was the last time you sat on a bike behind a diesel bus. The last time I walked around a heavily polluted city at end of the day my legs were covered in black splotches that settled on them from the air that I and millions of others were breathing.
143 steve Owens
January 3, 2025 at 3:26 pm

“So it’s not that you can’t answer, it’s just that you won’t answer me. Because if you did know then… (x) and if you didn’t then….(y) and you’re not brave enough to take a stand.”
What a load of horse shit.
I am happy to answer any question and I’m happy to take a stand.
Stand one electrification is the future and fossil fuels are the past.
Stand two AI is the future and working without it is a Troglodyte notion
Stand three Blockchain will become the norm because of its utility and transparency. Crypto currency I have no idea how to value it so I think it is like gold in that its only worth what the next person will pay for it.
Blockchain
“A blockchain is a distributed database or ledger shared across a computer network’s nodes. They are best known for their crucial role in cryptocurrency systems, maintaining a secure and decentralized record of transactions, but they are not limited to cryptocurrency uses. Blockchains can be used to make data in any industry immutable—meaning it cannot be altered.

Since a block can’t be changed, the only trust needed is at the point where a user or program enters data. This reduces the need for trusted third parties, such as auditors or other humans, who add costs and can make mistakes.”
144 Patrick Muldowney
January 3, 2025 at 5:27 pm

After 40 years of investigation of the issues the most simpleminded of the ALP supporters say… ‘I guess we need to talk global warming…’
Not at your infantile level we don’t.

A basic education is required and you don’t seem to have one, so try Happer on CO2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ7UZjFDHU
Then try Lindzen when environmentalism is the problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYWrehjaMFQ
Dr Richard Lindzen exposes climate change as a politicised power play motivated by malice and profit.

That is the sort of level of discussion that Steve could have reached by now but instead Steve remains stuck at the infantile level of the Zali Steggal’s and the Greta’s. Useless.

Alarmists, see the world like porridge and humanity, like Goldilocks is supposed to require it to be at a just-right temperature! Never mind that people roam from the equator to the poles and from sea level to the top of Mt Everest, because alarmists know stuff and we ordinary mortals must bow down before them!

The alarmist priests inform us that our species evolved in a period of x levels of co2 and we are causing levels to return to various prior periods of y-co2 levels when there was ALSO abundant life on earth only humans had not yet evolved to roam all over! The implication from alarmists is that x-co2 is for humans a Goldilocks question of there being a figure that’s just right for us (because evidently the planet and life in general doesn’t give a rats arse about co2 levels).

Life became super abundant when levels were far higher and the ups and downs had nothing to do with the then non existing humans. BUT the alarmists have their priest-like knowledge, a ‘scientific understanding’ no less, of the ideal number range for Co2 to keep earth’s average temperature ranges as or near where they currently are. Therefore important people attend COP conferences and make Paris agreements!

So alarmists think of Trump as a ‘monster’ who will once again scrap this ‘vital’ treaty on day 1.

Paris was signed by people who would sit and listen respectfully when saint Greta pointed out how older people were really wicked and robbing her! The well informed ALP and Greenie types like Zarli Steggal must now devise policies in this new context.

Essentially it all boils down to a price on carbon to force people to stop using carbon dioxide. Policies will produce results so Australia can morally lead to get a ‘net zero’ outcome by 2050! India, China and the Trump US as well as most of the rest of the world will ensure that what is done in and to Australians cannot and will however NOT affect the climate. What is being done will affect people in Australia. They want to impose what can and can’t be done and they will eventually be turfed out. The policies will then be undone again. Just like they were when Julia Guillard promised ‘there will be no carbon price’ and promptly introduced one! The current rubbish from the collection of ALP thugs will beccome an historical bump on the road. Bowen is anything but the last word on this shit.

The Bowen plan will of course cost and will undoubtedly have zero effect on the climate but Steve insists that these people have to be in power and inflict their costs so that we can be good and show the way! Steve insists that good people must vote for them!

Every good person must stop ‘drill baby drill’ thinking and staff their country’s EPA’s so that they get in the way of all development of carbon based projects; the good people must cancel oil pipelines and new coal mine applications and somehow discourage activities like V8 car racing. The Education departments must generate schools that push an agenda so the next generations will ‘reduce and reuse’ all round to get ‘our’ carbon footprint to Net Zero! Meat and dairy production are -like airline flights- a no no for Greta and cuts will have to be somehow imposed on the rest of us. Well I don’t think so.

So the lies start coming thick and fast at this point because only the pests from ‘Just Stop Oil’ are honest enough to tell it like it is. Only they stand directly in peoples way right now and like any thug impose directly on us. The Steve Owens crowd pretend that their ALP, Teal, Green, political leaders are not being thugs when they lie about what they are up to.

Transport and electricity production are only the first big targets EV’s get waved through and ICE cars pay road tax! Coal infrastructure is deliberately made noncompetitive and blown up rather than replaced at end of life as they are deemed ‘dirty’.

But the emperor has no clothes!
145 Patrick Muldowney
January 3, 2025 at 5:35 pm

The big lie ‘I am happy to answer any question and I’m happy to take a stand.’ Who are you kidding! People can read the above posts! Did you know or didn’t you?
146 steve Owens
January 3, 2025 at 6:55 pm

You claim that the video I linked to is AI generated. I don’t know, how do you? Yes, the voice seems mechanical but that just means the voice sounds mechanical. As I said before I don’t care if they used 10% AI or 100% AI for me the interesting thing is the message and the message castigated the legacy auto industry for collusion, suppression of innovation, having management incentives depend on share price, adopting an MBA rather than an engineering philosophy and an addiction to subsidies.
If you think Trump will OK the Keystone XL pipeline you must ask, why did it not happen in his first term?
I’m still happy to bet that oil production under Trump will not exceed oil production under Biden.
The USA is in trouble tariffs in a mature economy will just set off autarky. If you want to see what these policies foster, then look no further than Argentina pre 2023.
147 steve Owens
January 3, 2025 at 9:16 pm

The problem with fronting with a physicist arguing against global warming is that I can front with a physicist who says that your physicist is wrong. The problem for me is that I have zero training in science and unless you have done a science degree while I wasn’t watching then neither do you.
148 Patrick Muldowney
January 3, 2025 at 9:51 pm

So the best thing to do is dump an AI rant on me!
149 steve Owens
January 3, 2025 at 10:36 pm

I don’t even know what type of denier you are.
Are you 1 it is all a hoax there is no rise in temperature the Andrew Bolt/Epstein line
or are you 2 there is a rise, but it can be explained by natural variation or sunspots the Dr W Happer line
or 3 there is a rise and it is caused by CO2 but it is manageable. The Bjorn Lomborg line.

Can I just check Was the moon landing a fraud?
150 Patrick Muldowney
January 4, 2025 at 2:04 am

On this thread I had posted this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjYaQRXRRnE

So stop your pointless foolishness ‘Can I just check Was the moon landing a fraud?’ and do some work!

You have now said you did not know that it was AI and you still don’t know but you keep trying to have it both ways and say it could be 10-100% AI and you wouldn’t care. So it is just propaganda and that is all it is.
151 steve Owens
January 4, 2025 at 9:12 am

I still don’t know what type of denier you are. You put up an interview with Dr Lindzen but he seems OK with the theory that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, he says that people who dispute this are “nutty”
However Dr Lindzen’s work contains stupid mistakes and is embarrassing, I would go as far to say very embarrassing.
152 Patrick Muldowney
January 4, 2025 at 2:18 pm

Like I said above ‘There are far more interesting things to listen to from the work of far more credible people blob:https://notebooklm.google.com/e36ab6b9-d9c4-4c6d-9c93-3c6874d025b8

But it looks like you didn’t listen to this 17:58 minute very interesting ‘conversation’.

I guess you were to busy pretending to not know about stuff and yet know enough to use the term ‘denier’ and to correct perhaps one of the worlds most eminent in the field that you are an alarmist over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spKTb3wMmJM&t=494s
interestingly in this Lidzen points out that the greeks had discovered steam power but only thought it through to being able to open heavy doors. As Maxwell Smart would say ‘missed it by that much’. If they had only seen a rhythmic hammer application like a blacksmith or the grinding of grain; but they missed it completely because slaves could open doors much more simply so they didn’t bother to build ‘it’ the heavy door opener and thus they failed to learn from the process. Humanity paid a gigantic price! Bit like now with CO2. Also this is a lot like the present with Steve dumping on Musk but not seeing a bigger picture and instead hiding in the precautionary principle. You don’t get gold medals with that style!
153 steve Owens
January 4, 2025 at 2:59 pm

I attempted to listen to the 2hr 48minute interview with Dr Lindzen but it put me to sleep.
If I have his argument correct it’s not about the science but about the politics within the scientific community.
Apparently, the scientific community was working very well but then fell afoul of the funding trap where bad climate science attracted funding which incentivized the scientific community to do more bad science and to silence people who did good science.
On the bad side are promoters like King Charles, David Attenborough and Greta.
The victims in this fantasy are the coal oil and gas producers’ helpless victims as a tsunami of money heads towards the alarmists.
Yes, the biggest most powerful corporations in the world are incapable of funding some good science and saving their industries.
Dr Lindzen a man who once questioned the scientific evidence linking tobacco smoke to lung cancer.
You my friend have been duped. I doubt you will recover as there’s a loony mindset associated with hard core deniers, and I have yet to see one recover.
154 steve Owens
January 4, 2025 at 4:11 pm

BTW I’m not immune to the idea that academia has politics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKiBlGDfRU8
155 Patrick Muldowney
January 4, 2025 at 4:28 pm

No it was the even more interesting stuff
Like I said above ‘There are far more interesting things to listen to from the work of far more credible people blob:https://notebooklm.google.com/e36ab6b9-d9c4-4c6d-9c93-3c6874d025b8
156 steve Owens
January 4, 2025 at 5:30 pm

The whole climate change denying industry rests on the idea that Climate Science is a hoax is fraudulent or misinterprets the data.

The answer surely is to do proper science not the stuff that is hopelessly compromised by the grants system where bad scientists get funding, but good scientists don’t.

As a result of climate change policies industries like the oil industry will just die.

Just a moment, Saudi Aramco is by market capitalisation the 6th biggest company in the world coming in at A$ 2.915 trillion.

Why can’t Saudi Aramco fund good research.
I guess it might be because of the lack of universities in Saudi Arabia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_and_colleges_in_Saudi_Arabia
157 Patrick Muldowney
January 4, 2025 at 6:18 pm

By your logic WW1 and WW2 would never have happened!
158 steve Owens
January 4, 2025 at 7:10 pm

At least what I say has some logic to it.
Otherwise you have to believe that the USA the world’s biggest oil producer is ok with a fake science that will destroy their oil industry.
You have to believe that Saudi Arabia the world’s biggest oil exporter is OK with a fake science which will destroy their industry. Saudi Arabia has climate change departments in their universities.
And the same is true with the other big oil exporters like Norway and Russia.
The only logical conclusion is that these countries have looked at the science and are in agreement with it.
Or they could just look at youtubes retired physicists and learnt the truth.
159 steve Owens
January 4, 2025 at 11:06 pm

It would be stupid to think that the oil companies haven’t done research into global warming. The worrying part is why haven’t they gone public with their findings.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-analysis-finds-exxonmobil-internal-research-accurately-predicted-climate-change/
160 steve Owens
January 5, 2025 at 8:18 am

The original article

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0063
161 Patrick Muldowney
January 6, 2025 at 1:05 am

Jennifer Marohasy is feeling positive.
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The myth of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (CAGW) has very little value as a scientific theory, but incredible political utility, especially for bankers. They can make money out of carbon credits, and all the deals in the transition to new sources of energy as long as this is mandated by governments, with tax payer funded subsidies.
The election of Donald Trump, and the fear he will show leadership. The fear he will expose the myth, and defund the nonsense is causing a quiet exist of bankers from a club established by the United Nations. 🤨. My good friend Jo Nova explains more:
It’s a good start to 2025 — just quietly, the money is exiting the Monster Banker Climate Cartel. Since the Trump win, the bankers are running away suddenly from the United Nations “Net-Zero Banking Alliance” (NZBA) which is a sub-part of GFANZ (the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero) — the world’s largest and richest climate activists club. GFANZ is the public face of every kind of global financial-bullying-to-save-the-world. Economically, the monster collective could eat whole nations for breakfast. At one point the collective assets-under-management were as valued at the fantastical conglomeration of $130 trillion. It is the hydra-head hissing at superannuation funds and national treasurers that don’t comply with sacred green goals. Who cares what the voters want?
The latest round of quiet banker departures started with Moody‘s and Goldman Sachs, a month ago. Only two days ago RealClear Energy took heart that ” U.S. behemoths Bank of America, Citigroup, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, and Wells Fargo were still in the NZBA”. But Wells Fargo quit a week ago, and under the cover of New Years Eve parties, the Bank of America, and Citigroup have jumped ship too. No one seems to be saying why they are leaving, probably because there is no good way to admit they were colluding with other bankers in anti-competitive acts, to limit the choices of businesses and voters. Likewise, there is never a good time to say it was a mistake to join a club that put their clients interests second, after the pet obsessions of UN apparatchiks.
Credit for these successes goes to the Republican State Governors and their anti-trust and fiduciary duty legal suits. Their threats are unravelling the giant financial marshmellow man — especially now that the bankers have lost any “protection” the Biden – Harris Presidency may have offered.
I’m quoting from Jo Nova, read more here:
162 steve Owens
January 6, 2025 at 10:07 am

Jennifer Marohasy? I’m not totally against her she seems quite competent in her scientific area which I believe is weed control.
She did make a gem of a comment about the ARC conference “…on a most important panel session on the evening of the second day we had to suffer the ignorance of both Jordon Peterson and Alex Epstein…”
I like the lady.
163 Patrick Muldowney
January 7, 2025 at 11:55 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDWq7-eP5sE&t=1978s this talk shatters Steve Owens and his obvious distortions.

the following is from a Pell thread at the start of 2020

‘What is to be done’ after the High Court acquits Pell? The dramatic events are less than 5 months away. A fightback could be spectacular or people could just be relieved and the usual suspects who were up to their necks in this terrible beat up be allowed to sneer at Pell’s luck, at having the wealth to get him off etc.

If there is to be an exposure it ought not just be a job for Andrew Bolt, Miranda Devine, Greg Craven, Gerard Henderson and the other usual suspects from the right who are in the position to publish. see https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/more-doubts-over-pell-case-paul-kelly-and-guy-rundle/news-story/914ef9fdad71a39f7ec822e62fb99f40 The genuine Left ought to show up as part of the bigger picture of exposing this MSM pseudoleft that has in 2019 so ‘jumped the shark’ with their hysteria.

Democrats ought to speak up now and go public with our challenge to that MSM hysteria. We well know ‘where the broom does not reach, the dust will not vanish of its own accord’.

The new religion is now built up to sufficient strength to simply shout ‘denier’ and effectively silence people with their de-platforming methods. They now hunt for ‘witches’ and every day they find us, denounce us and silence us. Pell is just the most prominent ‘climate denier’.

2020 is a great opportunity for a prize-fight. Happy New year to all fighters for democracy.
164 steve Owens
January 7, 2025 at 12:52 pm

Yes, gold star for you on Pell but back to the topic at hand.
a: Has any oil company done global warming research?
b: If not, why not?
Leaked internal communications from Exxon would indicate that the answer to a is yes.
c: Why haven’t Exxon released their findings to the public?
If oil companies are going to claim that climate science is fraudulent, why wouldn’t they just do some real research?
I’m still no closer to finding out what type of denier you are.
Is it A Carbon Dioxide is harmless
B More Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere is good or
C The bad bits of global warming are manageable.
165 steve Owens
January 7, 2025 at 2:21 pm

As we enter a new dark age NASA will again be restricted so I thought I would save this here.

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

What you don’t think that Trump will try and suppress science?

https://time.com/5937784/nasa-climate-trump/
166 Patrick Muldowney
January 7, 2025 at 4:12 pm

As I said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDWq7-eP5sE&t=1978s this talk shatters Steve Owens and his obvious distortions. But what I meant was utterly shatters Steve’s foolish methods and his obvious distortions and it also reveals how people like me think about CO2.

There must be something very important about a gas that if not present in the atmosphere in sufficient quantity would mean no life on Earth. I’m rather fond of the abundant life on Earth so I regard CO2 as the very foundation of that abundance. Now as it happens humans have quite recently been able to work out that CO2 levels have been naturally falling over millions of years and if that trend were to continue we can work out when life would no longer be able to be sustained. But the good news is that the natural trend has been turned around and thankfully by humans burning fossil fuels! So modern humanity is making our life so much better and the planet serve our needs so much more by doing what we have been doing and that is summed up in the slogan ‘Drill baby drill!’. Great news. Rejoice!

It’s remarkable to me that people who have benefited so much from the use of machines are so blind to the requirement for their spread to all other human beings and be happy to see the machine food increases reduce the costs so that the machine poor across the globe can use the same machines and get the same great benefits. Despite any green lies there is no genuine development without fossil fuels. Imposing costs on fossil fuels is getting in the way of development and slowing it up.

Just take 1 photo of a poor person trying to stave off hunger with a hand hoe and place another photo of a child driving a massive header machine beside it and choose the world you would rather live in. There is, despite the back to nature small is beautiful cranks, as humanity peaks out at 11 billion on Earth no real choice. Costs imposed by alarmists inevitably generates a fightback and that is why the woke alarmists are being dumped now and they will be again when they lie their way into power. People can choose for themselves in my world but in the greens world we must be compelled to stop burning fossil fuels and get to Net zero by 2050. (Then as we roll around laughing they claim to be democratically minded as well!) No they’re not!

Now as we have seen, in the saw tooth manner that CO2 rises with the seasons and measurably increases over the decades, from the satellite evidence there has been a measurable greening of the Earth as we have gone along.

So not only is there no climate catastrophe underway, no unprecedented weather related events like fires, droughts, floods and cyclone increases, that we can and have actually measured, to worry about but actually there is good news to celebrate. The world is greening so how good is that!

We don’t have to be scared of fossil fuels. We can continue burning stuff and building a better world! So we will! Only we have to get the woke out of the positions of power, and that will not be easy! They have to ‘go’ because they are holding back development and misdirecting scares resources. Merkel-Obama-Biden-Harris-Bernie Sanders, King Charles, Macron on and on the list goes.

We KNOW that human crop production levels have continued to rise year by year (and for all manner of good reason but the use of CO2 in greenhouses show increases in yields with increases in CO2) so it is clearly good for crops and trees etc. In SA Goyder’s line on average (and against 40 years of predictions from the ABC) moves north every year. That was a result directly going against what the alarmists were worrying about. We all listened to the dire predictions from now beach front property owner Flannery decades ago and these predictions did NOT eventuate!

So the current situation is that people are more plentiful, food is more plentiful, trees are more plentiful, life is more abundant, travel is cheaper and more frequent etc. All good. Nothing to worry your foolish head about.

The evidence is quite clear that there is currently a massive up-side to humanity using more fossil fuels. That is NOT to say humanity might not find down sides but that the positive contribution must always be set against any negative to make sense. You and the rest of your alarmist mates never do that! That is why you have been wrong footed and remain so.

So now with both sides looked at, I conclude that there is no reason for net zero and climate change worries and I am glad to hear that people suffering from climate alarm-ism like you also track with TDS; so looks like (god willing) 4 years of some slight joy for me!

As for oil companies doing ‘real research’ and telling us all the truth YOU could not handle the truth! Let alone truth from a fossil fuel funded scientist. As we see with your deliberate obfuscation even with Jennifer Marohasy who is in no way an alarmist.

This is a site that promotes humanities BRIGHT FUTURE.

The danger is not fossil fuels the danger is a lack of fossil fueled machines to do the work that is in urgent need of being done. Machines make humans powerful and able to do the work that for 100’s of thousands of years we could not do. We need to build and feed these machines. Imagine if Goyder could see that child sitting in that giant airconditioned header listening to music as the tons of wheat are harvested and then remind yourself that AI is only just starting out! Get out of the way. Drill baby drill.
167 Patrick Muldowney
January 8, 2025 at 1:05 pm

AI is currently so easy to spot but nevertheless like I said above ‘There are far more interesting things to listen to from the work of far more credible people blob:https://notebooklm.google.com/e36ab6b9-d9c4-4c6d-9c93-3c6874d025b8 And this is just the first draft of the Syria debate that ran over the course of a dozen years and is clearly still unfolding. I HAVE made a considerable effort to understand the issues and to document how my thinking has evolved!
168 steve Owens
January 8, 2025 at 8:36 pm

I just can’t understand how you can be impressed by Jordan and Alex.
I’ve watch 45 minutes of this, and it is excruciating. They bring up 2 authors, but the books are from 1989 and 1968. The 1968 book has nothing to do with global warming.
Jordan states that forests in Europe are being reduced as people use wood for fuel but when I look up forests in the EU I find that there is a program of reforestation and forests are expanding.
Jordan says that arable land has increase by 15% in the last 15 years but when I look up arable land it’s pretty static.
Jordan says that the Sahara is becoming arable but when I look that up there’s a 10% increase in desert in the last 100 years.
Jordan says that agricultural production is up and he is correct between 2000 and 2020 it is up 54%. Now is this due to extra CO2 in the air or is this due to a 62% increase in the use of pesticides and a 56% increase in the use of fertiliser?
Alex says nothing apart from repeating that environmentalists are nihilists’ and have a hatred of people.
169 steve Owens
January 8, 2025 at 9:32 pm

In the video Alex makes the point repeatedly that environmentalists hate humanity and see humans as the problem.
Over the years mainly working at a community radio station I interviewed lots of environmentalists. I never met any who hated humanity. The people I met were concerned about lead levels in children living near a lead smelter, or workers who had contracted mesothelioma from asbestos contact or people who didn’t want the last river in Tasmania dammed or people who didn’t like the nuclear power industry or thought that the dispersants used on oil at the local refinery were harmful. The people I met could in no way be described as having an antihuman view of the world. At another place I did meet a couple of Earth Firsters, and they were pretty crazy but even they weren’t anti human, they just thought that every living creature should have the same right to exist. Which is pretty crazy.
I still agree with Jennifer Marohasy that Jordan and Alex are ignorant. And you find them impressive, each to their own I guess.
170 Patrick Muldowney
January 11, 2025 at 1:59 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pACk5iCxlT0
Michael Shellenberger explains the role of government agencies in social media censorship, his work on the Twitter files, and the differences between independent and mainstream journalism.

PLUS: how to deal with the opioid epidemic, what we can do about homelessness, his take on January 6, George Floyd, UFOs and UAPs, and more.

Recorded live in Santa Barbara, CA at the Skeptics Society 2023 conference.

**************
Peterson, Epstein and so forth are vital in the fight against the liberal elites that are doing the sort of damage that Steve sees as the way forward with his support for Bernie Sanders etc
171 steve Owens
January 11, 2025 at 3:50 pm

I don’t think that I can help any more. Schellenberger asks why no one talks about the UK emitting less CO2 now than in the 50s. Yes, no one asks because it is irrelevant.
Peterson and Epstein are described by Jennifer Marohasy as ignorant.
CO2 in the worlds atmosphere is increasing. It’s currently at over 400 parts per million if it gets to 1,000 parts per million, we will have difficulty breathing but don’t worry before that happens CO2 will warm the earth to an unlivable heat because CO2 is a greenhouse gas the more we add the higher the temperature will go.
You can believe like Alex that more CO2 will just make the world more tropical, but I would prefer not to find out.
In gambling everyone takes tips, but it is more profitable to take tips from the informed rather than the uninformed. And you claim not to be a gambler but here you are all in.
172 Patrick Muldowney
January 11, 2025 at 7:09 pm

You seem to know almost nothing about this stuff.
‘if it gets to 1,000 parts per million, we will have difficulty breathing’ where did you get such mad thoughts from? Any time you are in a lecture hall you will breath after 1/2 an hr or so you will be breathing way over that level.
173 steve Owens
January 11, 2025 at 7:51 pm

https://www.co2meter.com/en-au/blogs/news/carbon-dioxide-indoor-levels-chart?srsltid=AfmBOopNwvWgQCs_EBIO7byC2_364sb9DGmvx-D86G4ySkzFI7fBawo-
174 steve Owens
January 11, 2025 at 8:03 pm

You do have a point I should have checked those figures rather than pull them from memory. Where I got them was from the interview of Trump by Musk on X where Musk said “In the call, Musk wrongly claimed that current CO2 levels, and the rate they’re rising at, are not particularly dangerous. He suggested that CO2 only becomes a problem around 1,000ppm, at which point it gets hard to breathe, you get headaches, and so on.”
175 Patrick Muldowney
February 16, 2025 at 6:33 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7cEQ1MTpA4 Almost the same can be said about Australia’s ABC!
176 Patrick Muldowney
February 24, 2025 at 10:38 pm

What right does one country have…the total stupidity of the conservative is even better than the stupid pseudoleft that couldn’t even get Kuwait let alone the sell out of the shia!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o9OoiBBYxXI
and the next one is gold
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/06fp6A16ja0 if renewables are powering the state cut the inter-connector! Victorian Brown coal powers SA!
177 Patrick Muldowney
February 26, 2025 at 2:36 pm

Israel takes more land and pushes out more Palestinians from the West Bank and that’s just one issue to think about! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-F3ufYQgNk Not WW3 just the odd nuke going off!!